[Foundation-l] Wikimania and the Muhammad pix

[Florence Devouard]

Nod. I'll add that to the board+Sue discussion next week end, and see 
that this be addressed.

Ant

  Chad wrote:
> Florence:
> 
> I'm going to say it one last time: please do not dismiss potential
> concerns simply because we're "Neutral." Many people have
> claimed neutrality before and it's burned them. Belgium before
> World War II being a notable example.
> 
> To be perfectly honest, I doubt that any of the non-Western
> governments give a crap about NPOV. You can say "But it's
> educational and we don't decide editorially what to put in
> en.wiki" until you're blue in the face. It doesn't change the
> way it's perceived. And, unfortunately, it currently looks to
> portions of the Islamic world that the WMF is dismissing
> complaints made due to a difference in religious ideology.
> 
> Just imagine the PR from the headlines "Wikimania contributors
> gunned down by Islamic extremists." Now, I'm not wishing this
> on anyone, nor do I hope we ever have to discuss the fallout
> from such a situation, but there are places in the world where
> the actions taken by some people can create headlines such
> as this.
> 
> The board would be wise to properly investigate the security
> situation in Egypt or potentially face the risk of having done
> nothing and then having to cope with the fallout because of that.
> I believe most Wikimedians would be fine with a canceled, postponed
> or relocated Wikimania if it meant they'd all be a bit safer.
> 
> For the community,
> Chad
> 
> On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Florence Devouard <Anthere9 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Oldak Quill wrote:
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>>  > On 23/02/2008, Florence Devouard wrote:
>>  >>  It should not matter what the political advocacy of our
>>  > governments are.
>>  >>  It should not matter where we come from. It should not
>>  > matter whether we
>>  >>  are gays, or muslims, or newyorkers.
>>  >
>>  > As far as I know, where we come from, our sexual orientation or our
>>  > religion doesn't matter to us. Wikimedia has no restrictions on who
>>  > can edit based on any group that they belong to. There hasn't been any
>>  > suggestion that this should or will change.
>>  >
>>  > The concern is that there are places in the world which, due to the
>>  > national government it falls under, care about where we come from, our
>>  > sexual orientation or our religion (or lack thereof).
>>  >
>>  > - --
>>  > Oldak Quill (oldakquill at gmail.com)
>>
>>  This was not my point at all.
>>  A previous editor made it a point to oppose US (wikipedians) to Egypt,
>>  insisting that Egypt government did not share our values, and giving it
>>  as an argument for wikimania not to be held in Egypt.
>>
>>  I am not convinced at all China government shares our values.
>>  I am not convinced either France government shares our values.
>>  I am not even convinced the USA government shares our values.
>>
>>  If we start giving as arguments for not going somewhere, the fact the
>>  government does not share our values, then we will not ever go somewhere.
>>
>>  I can perfectly realize that some countries are not as respectful than
>>  others about differences between people. That does not mean I think we
>>  should accept divisions of groups of people per countries within our
>>  community.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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