[Foundation-l] Wikimania and the Muhammad pix

[Dan Rosenthal]

On Feb 21, 2008, at 11:02 AM, Aphaia wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Dan Rosenthal  
> <swatjester at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Aphaia: We are not talking about the Orthodox Church of Russia, nor
>> are we talking about Russia.
>
>> We are talking about the former Soviet Union,
>
> And what is relevance to this list, please?

It is relevant to the list because it is an analogy offered by Lars as  
to why we should be in Egypt.
>
>
>> which was notoriously intolerant of religions, including
>> Christianity and its related sects.
>
> I think I don't need to be informed that from you Westerner.

Oh really? Because Westerners don't have any idea of what the cold war  
is like? Because my family is not from the former Soviet Union? Do you  
have some special privilege or immunity that exempts you from being  
informed of things you apparently don't know about by Westerners? Or  
is it that all Westerners are dumb, and you know everything there is  
to know about the Cold War era Soviet Union, and you can never learn a  
thing from a Westerner about it?
>
>
>> Your offense is misplaced.
>
> Disagreed. You talk something never happened and unnecessarily mock
> religious situation. I don't feel insulted even if you don't remember
> me or His Grace Daniel but your joke is simply pointless and not
> funny.

What joke? What do you keep insisting on a joke or mocking? I think  
you have the wrong impression that is going on here, and yes, that is  
why I think your offense is misplaced. Nobody is joking about  
anything. We're debating reasons why the Foundation should or should  
not be supporting Wikimania in a country that is hostile to free  
expression. I fail to see where the joke and mockery is there, but  
feel free to let me know when you find it.

-Dan

>
>
> Thanks,
>> -Dan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Aphaia wrote:
>>
>>> Guys
>>> Your jokes sounds very offending. Such thing has never happened for
>>> your information. I say it as an personally offended person and a
>>> catecumenata (sorry I don't know how you call it in English) at the
>>> Orthodox Church of Japan, an autonomous and canonical Orthodox  
>>> church,
>>> whose primate is confirmed by the Orthodox Church of Russia.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Dan Rosenthal
>>> <swatjester at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Or perhaps, refusing to smuggle Bibles into the Soviet Union  
>>>> because
>>>> smuggling Bibles is illegal by fiat of an intolerant government,  
>>>> and
>>>> people who do it run the risk of being beaten or worse.
>>>>
>>>> Fail analogy is full of fail.
>>>>
>>>> -Dan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 21, 2008, at 4:44 AM, Lars Aronsson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dan Rosenthal wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is really the kind of environment we want to host a
>>>>>> Wikimania in?  I'd have much more respect for people who BOYCOTT
>>>>>> Wikimania in the name of free speech, freedom of the press, and
>>>>>> journalistic integrity.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is like refusing to smuggle Bibles into the Soviet Union,
>>>>> because it is such an awful atheist country.  Think again.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Lars Aronsson (lars at aronsson.se)
>>>>> Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se
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