[Foundation-l] WMF/EFF and Copyright extension

Brian McNeil brian.mcneil at wikinewsie.org
Thu Feb 21 14:44:17 UTC 2008


Signed, and promoted.

Good luck getting it on Slashdot, digg and others.

Brian McNeil

-----Original Message-----
From: foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Chad
Sent: 21 February 2008 14:36
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] WMF/EFF and Copyright extension

TBH, I'm tired of sitting around and not acting on a problem, so I did act.
And I hope it will be in a big way. I've launched my own petition against
the EU's actions over at Veropedia. If anyone cares to take a look and/or
sign (preferably sign, we want to make this a strong message to the EU),
the URL is as follows:

http://petition.veropedia.com/

Hope to see you all on board. Perhaps a WMF resolution + our petition will
get
the message across to the EU that this change is not beneficial to
larger society
and is greatly unappreciated.

All the best,
Chad

On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 5:09 AM, Brian McNeil
<brian.mcneil at wikinewsie.org> wrote:
> I wonder, would the phrasing "not in the interests of the public that EU
>  institutions are supposed to serve and represent" be appropriate?
>
>  In any case, based on the discussion I think it is time someone else had
a
>  go at drafting the resolution - including both the Wikipedia aspect and
the
>  "not in the public interest" issue. We need something to go to Mike for
>  final tweaks and presentation to the board. It isn't going to go through
in
>  time to give to the EFF tomorrow but I'm sure they'll be pleased to hear
>  that the overwhelming consensus of Wikimedians is that the proposal is a
bad
>  idea.
>
>
>
>  Brian McNeil
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
>
> [mailto:foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Lars
Aronsson
>  Sent: 21 February 2008 10:39
>  To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] WMF/EFF and Copyright extension
>
>
>
> daniwo59 at aol.com wrote:
>
>  > I would hope the reason we oppose the extension of copyright is
>  > far more principled than that.
>
>  I agree.  I think what we have to make clear is that there is a
>  public interest on the far side of copyright expiration.  Most new
>  legislation is written by asking for input from all interested
>  parties, involving both sides in any conflict.  But for copyright
>  law this has traditionally meant both publishers and authors, or
>  both record companies and artists.  Both sides have agreed that
>  more protection and longer expiration times is better.  For
>  example when life+50 was changed to life+70, this was only
>  described as an improvement.  The people who disagree, that is we,
>  the users of public domain material, have not been asked.
>
>  Of course, both shopowners and shoplifters are not involved in
>  drafting anti-theft legislation.  So what we have to make clear is
>  that we represent a public interest that is not only huge, but
>  also legitimate.
>
>  In countries (such as Scotland and Scandinavia) where you have
>  [[freedom to roam]], this is certainly against the interest of
>  land owners, but on the other side of the negotiation table are
>  hiking societies, such as [[sv:Svenska Turistföreningen]] with
>  300,000 members or 3 percent of the total population of Sweden.
>
>  Wikimedia Sverige is 122 years younger and has only 100 members,
>  so still needs to recruit 299,900 more.
>
>
>  --
>   Lars Aronsson (lars at aronsson.se)
>   Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se
>
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