[Foundation-l] and what if...

Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Sat Dec 13 11:04:17 UTC 2008


Hoi,
Do people add these user boxes to their own user page ?
Thanks,
      GerardM

2008/12/13 Yaroslav M. Blanter <putevod at mccme.ru>

> > Any society considering a Great Firewall of any sort is neither
> > democratic nor open, whether or not they periodically hold votes on
> > exactly who should implement bad ideas. We should not in any way
> > acknowledge or respect such, though we should help those who live
> > there and encourage and assist them in circumvention.
> >
> > --
> Well, here comes a real life story. Several days ago, someone on ru.wp
> village pump drew the attention of the community to the existence of a
> userbox "This user denies Holocost". I speedily deleted the userbox (it
> has been used on a number of user pages), since the Holocost denial is
> illegal in a number of European countries and constitutes a criminal
> offense, and I was afraid that the access to ru.wp will be blocked in
> these countries. However, the community has explicitly chosen to ignore
> the issue: Any userboxes are currently allowed provided they do not break
> the laws of the state of Florida. When I realized that I basically broke
> the rules trying to obey the law, I restored the userbox (it has been
> later removed by another sysop, and the discussion is still going and will
> most probably result in an arbitration case against us), but the issue is
> still there. (Note that this does not concern the content, only the
> design).
>
> On the other hand, obviously we can not obey all the laws in all
> countries. For instance, in Iran LBGT topic are prohibited, and following
> this logic we need to remove all LGBT articles from all language editions,
> most notably from fa.wp, and content removal clearly contradicts the WMF
> goals.
>
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
>
>
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