[Foundation-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

Ting Chen wing.philopp at gmx.de
Sun Dec 7 11:19:00 UTC 2008


Hello,

how about thinking about a channel between commons admins and local 
admins, for example a subpage under the Request for Administrator 
Attention (or some similar page), so that in case a non-english-speaking 
user is doing something odd, at first the local admins can be consulted.

Ting

Finn Rindahl wrote:
> I guess I'm one of the Commons admins "actively working against being [just]
> a service project" for the various other wikimedia projects. I don't want it
> to be regarded as a "completely independent project" though. There's two
> reasons why I do that.
>
> 1. Wikimedia Commons serves a purpose on it's own, in being the project
> where we (wikimedians) make free media files avvailable to the public.
> That's well within the aim of WMF, just like wikipedia is bringing free
> encyclopedic content etc.
>
> 2. For Commons to be able to serve the other wikimedia projects in a
> satisfactory manner, there has to be a lot of committed volunteers doing the
> (most often) tedious task of maintaining the media files, among other things
> ensuring that the content indeed is free and that the files are marked an
> categorised so that others easily can find them. Most of these volunteers
> are the "commonsadmin", who in my opnion has one of the most ungrateful jobs
> in the wikimedia world. If there was more active admins, we could have done
> our job better - especially when it comes to take the necessary time to
> communicate with the other users who need help. The only way as I see it to
> actually get volunteers to work at Commons is to build a "community feeling"
> at commons like in other projects. If I only pop by Commons to fix something
> upon a request from another user at Norwegian Wikipedia - that's well and
> good but not something that will motivate me to spend and hour or two
> working on a backlog or actively look up some new Dutch user to see if I can
> help them learn how to best upload images at commons.
>
>
> Finn Rindahl
>
>
>
>
> 2008/12/7 David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com>
>
>   
>> 2008/12/6 Bryan Tong Minh <bryan.tongminh at gmail.com>:
>>
>>     
>>> I can think of two solutions here. One is to simply have more
>>> multi-project admins. Wikimedia ought to be one big community with a
>>> commons goal. Unfortunately (but not unsurprisingly) Wikimedia has
>>> been separated into many different islands separated by language
>>> borders, which are very hard to open up. Commons was born as a
>>> multilingual project, but in that aspect has failed I believe.
>>>       
>> Relations between Commons and en:wp are clunky at the best of times,
>> so it's certainly not just a language issue at all.
>>
>> It's Commons forgetting it's a service project or Commons admins
>> actively working against being a service project, because they want to
>> be regarded as a completely independent project.
>>
>>
>> - d.
>>
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