[Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Searchability of non-mainspace pages

[Wily D]

The relevant bug request exists :
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13864 but there's some
politicing about implementing it, so it seems allowing each Wiki to
choose a set of namespaces might allow for a quicker consensus. Sounds
also like devs might just change the specific robots.txt if consensus
existed, though I'll be hogtied and thricefuck'd if I've any idea how
to do that.

If people think noindexing is worthwhile, they might indicate this is
worth having as an option by voting for this bug.

WilyD

On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Chad <innocentkiller at gmail.com> wrote:
> The way to do it would be to open a bugzilla request.
>
>  -Chad
>
>
>
>  On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Wily D <wilydoppelganger at gmail.com> wrote:
>  > So - uh - the question naturally arises "Does anyone with the
>  >  knowledge of how to do this feel BOLD?"  Maybe just noindex the
>  >  various talk spaces and see how it goes?
>  >
>  >  WilyD
>  >
>  >
>  >  On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Chad <innocentkiller at gmail.com> wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  > > This already exists to some degree in Mediawiki by default. The
>  >  >  "noindex,nofollow" tags can be assigned per-namespace, so the
>  >  >  Wikipedia: namespace can easily be removed from search indexers
>  >  >  (ones that follow the standard, at least).
>  >  >
>  >  >  As far as assigning it on a per-page basis (ie: for the mainspace if
>  >  >  need be), I would think that either a magic word (like you said Jimbo:
>  >  >  {{NOINDEX}} or somesuch), or an extension (such as the url
>  >  >  blacklists) would be the way to go.
>  >  >
>  >  >  -Chad
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Jimmy Wales <jwales at wikia.com> wrote:
>  >  >  > Charles Matthews wrote:
>  >  >  >  > Well, maybe we should discuss the downside first. Not having project
>  >  >  >  > pages on Google would certainly impede my work. You know, some of us
>  >  >  >  > still develop articles, and so on.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  This is a valid point, and I think it needs to be addressed in a couple
>  >  >  >  of ways:
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  1. First, narrowing the scope of the noindex request.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  2. Second, finding out what it would take to improve internal search to
>  >  >  >  make it more usable for people developing articles and so on.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  > Ah, but I do. Isn't it a better solution to blank some AfDs, than to
>  >  >  >  > say "the mission has to come second"? After all, really negative
>  >  >  >  > material should be off the site, not just harder to find.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  I would support that for some kinds of pages, blanking should be the
>  >  >  >  default upon the close of discussion.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  -----
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  I wonder how hard it would be to have a technical change whereby
>  >  >  >  articles could be tagged with a {{noindex}} template which would set the
>  >  >  >  meta headers appropriately.  This could be liberally applied to project
>  >  >  >  pages that may be magnets for bad behavior.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  And then user space could be the only thing removed from google by default.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  Thoughts?
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  --Jimbo
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >
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