[Foundation-l] Board-announcement: Board Restructuring

Yaroslav M. Blanter putevod at mccme.ru
Tue Apr 29 11:29:21 UTC 2008


I am not sure why you keep asking this question after receiving the
reaction from four members of the proposed PVC group that there was no
proposal presented except for the resolution which is publicly available

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikicouncil/Resolution

Cheers
Yaroslav


> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:41 PM, effe iets anders
> <effeietsanders at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2008/4/29, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen <cimonavaro at gmail.com>:
>>
>> > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Durova <nadezhda.durova at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > And while the people who were on the private group to
>> > >  explore the setting up of the council have demanded
>> > >  public explanations, they haven't themselves gone first
>> > >  and revealed what they presented to the board, or how
>> > >  their proposal was prepared, what conflicting views
>> > >  were balanced and how.
>> > >
>> > >  Somehow the situation reminds me of a poker game with
>> > >  both players asking the other guy to show their cards
>> > >  first.
>> > >
>> > >  Yours
>> > >  Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
>> > >
>> > >  ******
>> > >  I suppose that's directed at least in part at me, since I wrote the
>> petition
>> > >  and was one of the names presented for PVC.
>> >
>> > Actually, it is not. At all. I do not mention the petition at all, as
>> anyone
>> > who can read English, can readily see.
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > >  It's always a danger with this sort of thing that someone will
>> > >  interpolate dastardly motives where none exist.
>> >
>> > Also it is a danger that someone will think the world
>> > revolves around them, and every word is directed
>> > at them and just them.
>> >
>> >
>> > Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]]
>> >
>> Maybe you could elaborate then what you did mean, as apperently this
>> is not clear. And please, abstain from personal attacks (everyone who
>> is able to read english etc) thanks :) We all want the best, we just
>> misunderstand and disagree with each other every now and then.
>
> Ahem. Quite the opposite from a personal attack, I was clarifying
> that I did not consider Durova to be one of those who has been
> less than forthcoming in this particular instance. I do apologize
> for the slight sarcasm, though sarcasm does not a personal attack
> make.
>
> Though, since the petition has been brought up in this thread - and I
> repeat and underline, not by me in this instance - one thing that makes it
> very hard for me to see how people are expected to support such a
> petition,
> when they don't even know what the proposal that was officially
> (not Durovas personal one) presented to the board by the one group
> that was officially tasked with preparing a proposal, what that proposal
> contains.
>
> We still don't know what that proposal entailed, and hence there is
> completely insufficient knowledge for anyone not in the know, to be
> able to figure out if the board really fell short, or was instead doing
> the right and responsible thing in not taking action, beyond encouraging
> people to go forward without an official blessing by the board.
>
>
> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]]
>
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