[Foundation-l] Request to allow Google to search list archivesagain

[David Goodman]

Its an open list--if they join it, they can search it.

On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Philippe Beaudette
<philippebeaudette at gmail.com> wrote:
> To my mind, the potential benefits outweigh the potential risks, unless
>  someone can create an argument that hasn't occurred to me yet (which is not
>  un-likely, since this isn't a question I've pondered in great depth).
>
>  Philippe
>
>  --------------------------------------------------
>  From: "David Goodman" <dgoodmanny at gmail.com>
>  Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 2:01 PM
>  To: <birgitte_sb at yahoo.com>; "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
>
> <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>  Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Request to allow Google to search list
>
>
> archivesagain
>
>  > absolutely no. G already indexes much too many of the incidental
>  > discussions at WP.
>  >
>  > On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Birgitte SB <birgitte_sb at yahoo.com>
>  > wrote:
>  >> I support this especially as url's to old messages are not stable.  An
>  >> effective search is greatly needed.  I have spent a long time on occasion
>  >> for searching for things I am certain exist and came up with nothing.
>  >>
>  >>  Birgitte SB
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>  --- On Sun, 4/27/08, Michael Bimmler <mbimmler at gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>
>  >>  > From: Michael Bimmler <mbimmler at gmail.com>
>  >>  > Subject: [Foundation-l] Request to allow Google to search list
>  >> archives again
>  >>  > To: "Wikimedia developers" <wikitech-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>  >>  > Cc: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
>  >> <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>  >>  > Date: Sunday, April 27, 2008, 12:30 PM
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> > [courtesy copy to foundation-l, though I suggest that
>  >>  > discussion, if any, be
>  >>  > centralised on wikitech-l]
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Hi all,
>  >>  > the search index for the mailinglist archives was last
>  >>  > rebuilt in January.
>  >>  > Now, after having made quite a few queries about this here
>  >>  > and at other
>  >>  > places, I learnt (and obviously had to accept) that
>  >>  > rebuilding the search
>  >>  > index is quite a resources-consuming process which resulted
>  >>  > in crashes.
>  >>  >
>  >>  > To put it bluntly, I dare suggest from a non-technical POV
>  >>  > that the "htdig"
>  >>  > (that's the name, isn't it?) experiment has failed.
>  >>  > If we can only update
>  >>  > our search index every 6 months or so, it is pointless to
>  >>  > have it.
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Instead, I suggest that
>  >>  > http://lists.wikimedia.org/robots.txt be modified as
>  >>  > to allow Google (and other search engines) to crawl
>  >>  > /pipermail/ again. I do
>  >>  > not really see the privacy issues of this, nabble, gmane
>  >>  > etc. are
>  >>  > google-searchable as well and I really don't see the
>  >>  > point in barring Google
>  >>  > from our own archive.
>  >>  >
>  >>  > If I am very honest, I do not even remember anymore, why we
>  >>  > decided to bar
>  >>  > Google from http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail.
>  >>  > Was it due to privacy concerns? If so, which, and why is
>  >>  > lists.wikimedia.orgas an archive different from
>  >>  > Nabble/Gmane?
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Thanks,
>  >>  > Michael
>  >>  >
>  >>  >
>  >>  > --
>  >>  > Michael Bimmler
>  >>  > mbimmler at gmail.com
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