[Foundation-l] Request to allow Google to search list archives again

David Goodman dgoodmanny at gmail.com
Sun Apr 27 19:01:42 UTC 2008


absolutely no. G already indexes much too many of the incidental
discussions at WP.

On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Birgitte SB <birgitte_sb at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I support this especially as url's to old messages are not stable.  An effective search is greatly needed.  I have spent a long time on occasion for searching for things I am certain exist and came up with nothing.
>
>  Birgitte SB
>
>
>  --- On Sun, 4/27/08, Michael Bimmler <mbimmler at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  > From: Michael Bimmler <mbimmler at gmail.com>
>  > Subject: [Foundation-l] Request to allow Google to search list archives again
>  > To: "Wikimedia developers" <wikitech-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>  > Cc: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>  > Date: Sunday, April 27, 2008, 12:30 PM
>
>
> > [courtesy copy to foundation-l, though I suggest that
>  > discussion, if any, be
>  > centralised on wikitech-l]
>  >
>  > Hi all,
>  > the search index for the mailinglist archives was last
>  > rebuilt in January.
>  > Now, after having made quite a few queries about this here
>  > and at other
>  > places, I learnt (and obviously had to accept) that
>  > rebuilding the search
>  > index is quite a resources-consuming process which resulted
>  > in crashes.
>  >
>  > To put it bluntly, I dare suggest from a non-technical POV
>  > that the "htdig"
>  > (that's the name, isn't it?) experiment has failed.
>  > If we can only update
>  > our search index every 6 months or so, it is pointless to
>  > have it.
>  >
>  > Instead, I suggest that
>  > http://lists.wikimedia.org/robots.txt be modified as
>  > to allow Google (and other search engines) to crawl
>  > /pipermail/ again. I do
>  > not really see the privacy issues of this, nabble, gmane
>  > etc. are
>  > google-searchable as well and I really don't see the
>  > point in barring Google
>  > from our own archive.
>  >
>  > If I am very honest, I do not even remember anymore, why we
>  > decided to bar
>  > Google from http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail.
>  > Was it due to privacy concerns? If so, which, and why is
>  > lists.wikimedia.orgas an archive different from
>  > Nabble/Gmane?
>  >
>  > Thanks,
>  > Michael
>  >
>  >
>  > --
>  > Michael Bimmler
>  > mbimmler at gmail.com
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