[Foundation-l] Stroop report

geni geniice at gmail.com
Tue Apr 8 18:58:36 UTC 2008


On 05/04/2008, Yann Forget <yann at forget-me.net> wrote:
> Lars Aronsson wrote:
>  >> On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Yann Forget <yann at forget-me.net> wrote:
>  >
>  >>> 2009, 60 years after Gandhi's death. The translator is Hélène
>  >>> Hart, she never wrote nor translated anything else beside this
>  >>> book, and her date of death is not known, even to the French
>  >>> National Library (BNF). I personaly called the BNF to ask for
>  >>> details. The book was published only once in 1924, and is out
>  >>> of print since then. If even the BNF does not know anything
>  >>> about Hélène Hart, I doubt anybody else knows it.
>  >
>  > I understand that Swedish book publishers in cases like these
>  > publish the book anyway, and if the copyright holder contacts them
>  > later there is a standard compensation paid out, based on the
>  > number of sold copies.  This means that the copyright holder who
>  > comes too late and makes the claim after publication can get
>  > compensated but can't negotiate the price and can't veto the
>  > publication. For the publisher it's not hard to do the math: Just
>  > set aside the small amount of money for every printed copy.  This
>  > is apparently a workable solution for the book printing business.
>  >
>  > I have tried to figure out if and how this could work for online,
>  > non-profit projects.  Economic compensation is ruled out for two
>  > reasons: 1) there is no money that can be set aside or paid, and
>  > 2) we most often don't know how many readers we have, so we can't
>  > compute the size of the renumeration anyway. The only workable
>  > approach seems to be to allow the late-coming copyright holder a
>  > veto, i.e. to take down the work upon request.  This is similar to
>  > what the Internet Archive or Google are doing.
>
>
> I completely agree with this. I wish that Wikimedia (practically Commons
>  and Wikisource) comes with a similar solution. This is not really
>  difficult if we stop being too fundamentalist on the issue.

Going rate is I understand about £40 per image. A mere 2500 images
less than 0.1% of commons total would be about £100,000 or about
$200,000. The methods publishers use don't scale.

-- 
geni



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