[Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] Primary account for single userlogin

Mark Williamson node.ue at gmail.com
Tue Apr 8 13:22:53 UTC 2008


An example of problems with Japanese:

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%E3%82%AB%E3%82%A4%E3%81%AE%E8%BF%B7%E5%AE%AE

ICU transliterates that as User:kaino mí gōng

It should be User:kainomeikyuu

Mark

On 08/04/2008, Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com> wrote:
> Again, what is the problem? It is these peoples' own fault they cannot
>  distinguish two usernames.
>
>  I cannot read the Armenian script, but I am sure I could distinguish
>  between most usernames written in it.
>
>  Besides, there are other solutions than a xenophobic response - we can
>  use numbers, as someone else proposed... we could automatically
>  transliterate (using ICU... it's a wonderful tool and it is
>  open-source), although this raises problems vis-à-vis Japanese (kanji
>  are transliterated in Pinyin rather than the appropriate Japanese
>  reading, as there is not always a way to tell what is Japanese and
>  what is Chinese), but it would still provide a useful and meaningful
>  mnemonic.
>
>  For example (first local script names on local recentchanges):
>  http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%E6%84%9B%E7%88%BE%E6%80%9D%E5%85%88%E7%94%9F
>  = User: ài ěr sī xiān shēng
>  http://hy.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%D5%96%D5%A5%D5%BF%D5%A1%D5%B5%D5%AB
>  = User:Fetayi
>  http://gu.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%E0%AA%B8%E0%AA%A4%E0%AA%BF%E0%AA%B7%E0%AA%9A%E0%AA%82%E0%AA%A6%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%B0
>  = User:satiṣacandra
>
>
>  Mark
>
>
>  On 08/04/2008, Henning Schlottmann <h.schlottmann at gmx.net> wrote:
>
> > Brian McNeil wrote:
>  >  > It would be frightfully rude to exclude usernames just because you can't
>  >  > read them. Dare I say, part of the Anglocentric bias we are supposed to
>  >  > strive to avoid?
>  >
>  >
>  > I is not the question, whether it is perceived as rude by some.
>  >  Intelligibility of Chinese, Arabic Devanagari, Thai characters or
>  >  whatever is a fact in most projects and it is high time to address it.
>  >  By now I found the talk page and archives of [[:en:WP:U]]. There the
>  >  question was raised several times but always chocked off by citing meta
>  >  and claiming the foundation had said so and it was Force Majeure, that
>  >  SUL would come and it would mean non-latin user names.
>  >
>  >  Has there ever been a discussion if SUL really is the answer to any real
>  >  problem and if this had to mean non-latin user names on projects based
>  >  on latin languages?
>  >
>  >
>  >  Ciao Henning
>  >
>  >
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