[Foundation-l] VC - alternative resolution

Birgitte SB birgitte_sb at yahoo.com
Sun Apr 6 14:08:52 UTC 2008

--- Philippe Beaudette <philippebeaudette at gmail.com>

> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Birgitte SB" <birgitte_sb at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 9:13 AM
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
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> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] VC - alternative
> resolution
> >... I believe there has been consensus for years
> > that RfA is broken at en.WP, but no one has a
> > solution... There is also an
> > acknowledged problem on en.WP of how to balance
> > anonymity with NPOV when people with suspected
> > personal and financial interests in an article
> start
> > editing it.
> Actually, just to comment on this: I think there
> would be significant 
> resistance within the en:Wikipedia to any external
> group - including VC - 
> that tried to "fix" RfA.  That is properly a task
> that belongs to the 
> project, and if the project has said "this is a
> significant issue, but not 
> one that we care enough about to fix yet", then I
> think that's a valid 
> argument (and I think it also happens to fairly
> document the current state 
> of affairs on en:WP).  I think the same applies to
> the example of how to 
> balance anonymity with NPOV.  I, for one, would have
> real issues with the VC 
> dictating to those issues, unless I was totally
> confident that the members 
> of the VC truly understood the community's feelings
> about them, and I don't 
> really know what mechanism could be in place to
> express them to the VC.
> I may have misunderstood what Brigitte was saying,
> but that's my initial 
> read.
> Philippe 

I was not suggesting the VC go into any one community
and "fix it"; I was just pointing out that there are
problems well known and agreed on by communities which
have not been dealt with.  If the RfA is a problem in
multiple communities; I would support the VC examining
the issue and drafting some recommendations on best
practices.  But it would be up to individual
communities to change their process and I would not
supprt the VC giving attention to this if en.WP is the
only place there is a problem.  My participation in
this thread has mainly been to disagree with Milos
focus on using examples of how the VC could go into
communities that meta people have a problem with and
"fix it".

Birgitte SB

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