[Foundation-l] Creative Commons CC-BY-SA Draft Statement of Intent

Milos Rancic millosh at gmail.com
Sun Apr 6 12:32:12 UTC 2008


On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Gerard Meijssen
<gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
>  A lawyer argues the case according to the requirements of his paymaster. It
>  is exactly for this reason that different lawyers come with different
>  answers to the same question. This means that a legal opinion of one lawyer
>  is very much within reason worth the money that is paid for it and the money
>  available to argue the point.

So, I asked for analysis from *our* lawyer (i.e. Mike) and from
lawyers of a couple of institutions which may be considered as fairly
independent. (As well as I am open for other suggestions.)

>  With a blind trust in lawyers, why would you think our community needs to
>  form an opinion about this? In the end it is about power and trust. I trust
>  people like Jimmy, Erik and Mike to do wel for usl. I feel no need to second
>  guess them. My politics is about creating knowledge that is freely available
>  and as such I positively hate all the licenses that restrict me alike.

I said previously a couple of times two very simple statements:
- Trusting to someone is one thing, keeping the process transparent is another.
- From your list, I already asked for Mike's analysis.

I didn't hear would we stay at CC-BY-SA 3.5/4.0 forever or we would
have a possibility to switch to some newer license. If yes, how would
we do that?

I didn't hear an explanation what are our options if something goes
wrong. Would we have a possibility to switch to another license if we
are not content with some future version of CC-BY-SA.

>  We all agree that the GFDL was not intended for use cases like Wikipedia and
>  we suffer for it. Now let us PLEASE harmonise the CC-by-sa and the GFDL in
>  order to have our practices be more in line with the letter of the license.
>  Thanks,

I agree with you and I would like to see those two licenses
harmonized. However, I don't like the fact that I've got all important
informations in private talks. This is not only a matter of me (or
whoever personally, or whichever group alone), but a matter of all
contributors to Wikimedian projects.



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