[Foundation-l] VC - alternative resolution

Milos Rancic millosh at gmail.com
Sat Apr 5 12:07:11 UTC 2008


On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
<cimonavaro at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hm. Actually, your first point (arbitrating in extraordinary
>  > circumstances) is related to the Meta ArbCom, which in the future
>  > shouldn't be a part of VC. An, of course, I don't think that we should
>  > have a body which would take care about about every article. However,
>  > one of the jobs of VC should be taking care about systematic
>  > tendencies inside of the communities.
>
>  Do you mean like systematic bias as it is manifest on the
>  English language wikipedia?

Yes, but en.wp made a tool for fighting systematic bias. A lot of
other projects have their own systematic biases produced by cultural,
political or whatever background.

>  I do expect you mean in most cases telling the outsider to get lost,
>  stop trolling and the usual...
>
>  ...but if there was something real at the bottom of it, then waiting
>  patiently for their own community to deal with it, perhaps waiting
>  even longer than would be strictly speaking necessary to be sure
>  the community itself cannot deal with it (just to avoid the appearance
>  of being a bunch of jackboots ready to parachute into any dispute)...

I am talking here about "outsiders" in Brigitte's sense: usually
contributors of some WM project not involved in a particular project
where they find a problem.

If there is a problem, process of solving it doesn't require
aggressive approach. It may be enough to analyze it and try to make
sophisticated influences toward a solution. Time may be helpful, but I
don't think that approach "wait and see what will be" is a wise one.

>  I think you may mean instead of final instance, a *last resort*, which
>  will take the burden.
>
>  Do you feel that expresses what you meant accurately?

Yes, this is the right phrase.



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