[Foundation-l] Provisional Volunteer Council - proposal

[Geoffrey Plourde]

This group has no power over the board! We should use the best experts we have to develop community governance, those who are familiar with the community. 



----- Original Message ----
From: Dan Rosenthal <swatjester at gmail.com>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 1:38:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Provisional Volunteer Council - proposal

Really? We don't? Yet we cry out for them when we want professionals  
on the board of trustees. A group theoretically with power over the  
board should not be carefully formed with expert advice? Perhaps the  
professionals are telling you how to create a community organization  
because that's what they have experience in and they know the legal,  
structural, and personal difficulties in developing such a group, that  
you don't. But what do they know, we know better, right? We don't need  
them to tell us what to do, right?

-Dan

On Apr 2, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Geoffrey Plourde wrote:

> Yes, we do not need the same old "professionals" telling us how to  
> create a community org.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Durova <nadezhda.durova at gmail.com>
> To: foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 12:26:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Provisional Volunteer Council - proposal
>
> Now, if I'm wrong and some of the PVC members have experience in
> non-profit governance and incorporation, please allow them to step
> forward and inform us. Up until now, I see _no_ qualifications other
> than being a suck up.
>
> -Chad
>
> I am a former board member of the Columbia University Alumni  
> Association of
> Southern California.  Another Wikimedian proposed my name and I  
> wasn't aware
> it was under consideration until Effe contacted me to see whether  
> I'd be
> interested.
>
> I don't know whether "assume good faith" applies to this list  
> formally, but
> it would be a good idea to follow it.
>
> -Durova
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