[Foundation-l] Allow new wikis in extinct languages?

[Dan Rosenthal]

Latin phrases are often used in American, UK, and Australian law, as  
well. Such a usage was actually one of the first contacts I ever had  
with latin wikipedia.

-Dan
On Apr 1, 2008, at 4:17 PM, Aphaia wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 5:04 AM, Pharos  
> <pharosofalexandria at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Mark Williamson  
>> <node.ue at gmail.com> wrote:
> For Latin, it is obvious. The latest Roman Missal was published in
> 2002. If you can argue it is not so much different from the second
> latest one, it had been published in 1962. Reflecting the so-called
> 2nd Vatican Counsil and its reformation, 1962 version, or Novus Ordo
> is very known of its differences from the earlier versions. Or we can
> refer to CCC or several motu proprios which the Vatican has issued.
>
> On the other hand, Coptic Church doesn't seem to be enthusiastic to
> issue their documents in Coptic. As for the Orthodox, I don't know any
> church in the Slavic tradition using Church Slavic as their document
> language, while still today it is the language of liturgy and the
> Scrupture and many prayers, and Churches in Greek tradition don't use
> Attic dialect as far as I know.
>
> There is a good reason Latin learners can be allowed to entertain
> their linguistic ability on this project, I think. Anyway, even in a
> narrow region, it is still used and viable to carry ideas.
>
>> Yes, I think the exact rule we should propose is: Does this language
>> have a contemporary literature?  Are new articles or books still be
>> written in it?
>>
>> And is the contemporary literature respected by -scholars- of the
>> "historical" language (i.e. not something merely pursued by Sumerian
>> hobbyists)?
>>
>> Because if there is a contemporary literature, then the language is
>> not truly extinct in the written form.
>>
>> When we "provide the sum of human knowledge to every human being", we
>> must recognize the diversity of human expression, and that a -full-
>> accounting of the vehicles of intellectual discourse must include all
>> languages that have contemporary literatures, whether they havve
>> native speakers or not.
>>
>> Pharos
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 29/03/2008, Jesse Martin (Pathoschild) <pathoschild at gmail.com>  
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> The language subcommittee only allows languages that have a living
>>>> native community (except Wikisource, due to its archivist nature).
>>>> This is based on an interpretation of the Wikimedia Foundation  
>>>> mission
>>>> to "provide the sum of human knowledge to every human being". Thus,
>>>> the overriding purpose of allowing a wiki in a new language is to  
>>>> make
>>>> it accessible to more human beings. If a language has no native  
>>>> users,
>>>> allowing a wiki in that language does not fit our mission because  
>>>> it
>>>> does not make that project accessible to more human beings.  
>>>> Instead, a
>>>> wiki in their native languages should be requested if it doesn't
>>>> already exist.
>>>>
>>>> Typically, the users requesting a wiki in an extinct language don't
>>>> want to provide educational material to more people at all, but  
>>>> only
>>>> want to promote or revive the language. While these are noble  
>>>> goals,
>>>> they are not those of the Wikimedia Foundation, so that a wiki  
>>>> should
>>>> not be created simply to fulfill them.
>>>>
>>>> But that is my opinion. What do you think; should wikis be  
>>>> allowed in
>>>> every extinct language?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Yours cordially,
>>>> Jesse Plamondon-Willard (Pathoschild)
>>>>
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