[Foundation-l] Relocation announcement

Sat Sep 22 14:29:57 UTC 2007

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Not making excuses for Mr. Gunn...

-Rich Holton

Michael Bimmler wrote:
> On 9/22/07, Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil at wikinewsie.org> wrote:
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>> Brian.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
>> [mailto:foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of effe iets
>> anders
>> Sent: 22 September 2007 10:03
>> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Relocation announcement
>>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> I have no idea who you are exactly, whether you are involved in Wikimedia at
>> all, but could you please explain what the constructive part of your
>> messages was? If you are not willing to have a *constructive* discussion,
>> and only are willing to make personal attacks, please do no longer post on
>> this list. Thanks.
>>
>> BR, Lodewijk
>>
>> 2007/9/22, jim gunn <jimgunnsigns at yahoo.ca>:
>>> thank god for headers as in internet headers as I see you are in Toronto ,
>>> using Bell which will make it beaucoup easier to stop you squids from
>>> spamming me, also I can contact U.S immigration in Toronto or Detroit to
>>> see if they want Sue in their country.  Always figured St. Petersburg was
>>> just a post office box, but the Bay Area will be a great place for the
>>> foundation-like they say it's like a breakfast cereal-lotsa flakes and
>>> nuts..but that header made a world of difference-keep spamming me and I'll
>>> have my buddies in the RCMP computer crimes division take care of it.
>> Hell,
>>> they're just down the street. This worked out great, Sue Gardner. thank
>> god
>>> for headers!
>>>
>>> Sue Gardner <sgardner at wikimedia.org> wrote:  Hi folks,
>>>
>>> I wanted to let you know that later this year, the Wikimedia Foundation
>>> will be relocating its headquarters to the San Francisco Bay area.
>>>
>>> You may know that we're currently in St. Petersburg, Florida. This was
>>> an accident rather than a deliberate choice; when Jimmy started the
>>> Foundation in 2003, he happened to be living here. And in the years
>>> since then, Florida has been a very good home for us.
>>>
>>> But it's time to move. We need to be in a larger city that is more
>>> suited to our work.
>>>
>>> In making this decision, we assessed five major cities: Boston, London,
>>> New York, San Francisco and Washington, DC - as well as St. Petersburg
>>> itself. The upshot: after a fairly detailed analysis, I recommended to
>>> the board that the Foundation relocate to San Francisco, and the board
>>> accepted that recommendation.
>>>
>>> Why San Francisco? It's the centre of high-tech in the United States.
>>> It's home to plenty of like-minded organizations and possible partners,
>>> top-tier universities like Stanford and UC Berkeley, world-class support
>>> services, and major media. And it will be more convenient - and cheaper
>>> - than St. Petersburg for international travel.
>>>
>>> There are also arguments for staying where we are. Moving will be
>>> expensive, and may be disruptive for the community. And St. Petersburg
>>> is less expensive than the Bay Area.
>>>
>>> But in the long run, San Francisco will suit us well, and will give the
>>> Foundation a solid base from which to grow.
>>>
>>> Here is what's planned at this point:
>>>
>>> - The new office will open sometime this winter. We'll probably start
>>> out in downtown San Francisco, until we get our bearings and choose a
>>> permanent location.
>>> - The St. Petersburg office will close late this winter, probably at the
>>> end of January.
>>> - We know that many people's personal circumstances will make it
>>> impossible for them to move, but we are hoping that some of the current
>>> staff will be able to come with us.
>>> - The servers will remain in Tampa indefinitely. If we do choose to move
>>> them, that would be a separate, subsequent decision. At this point, it's
>>> not under active consideration.
>>>
>>> The board members have asked me, in this note, to thank the St.
>>> Petersburg staff for their hard work and dedication. And I want to add
>>> my thanks as well. It's a great group of committed, hard-working people,
>>> and those who can't move with the office will be missed.
>>>
>>> I know many of you will have questions about the staff. Most of them I
>>> probably can't answer, because, in general, individual staff issues are
>>> confidential. But I will say that I take very seriously the
>>> organization's obligation to its employees, and I am committed to
>>> ensuring everyone is treated fairly and with care. The staff has been
>>> informed and consulted throughout this process, and has made a good
>>> contribution to it.
>>>
>>> In the coming months, the Foundation will be relying on the staff's
>>> patience and cooperation, and on yours - we will need lots of support in
>>> order for this transition to go smoothly.
>>>
>>> Please feel free to forward this note to anyone who might be interested,
>>> and to contact me directly if you have any questions, or want to offer
>>> help. We will probably put out a press release sometime next week, but
>>> wanted to let you all know first.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sue
>>>
>>>
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