[Foundation-l] Fwd: [foundation-l] Bot policy on bots operating interwiki

[effe iets anders]

I think that above situations have described perfectly that bots are not
perfect :) And although I think that the advantages outweight the
disadvantages, that doesn't mean that every community (with 0-bizillioin
members) agrees to that conclusion. I think that it is of the uttermost
importance that communities are independant, and are at least able to
protest to another new bot user. I know this is a pain in the ass, I know
this means more work to you guys, and I know that you don't like this. But
when determining this kind of things, I think that you should not only look
from the point of view of the bot owner, but even more to the pov of the
community (yes, even is there is only half a person there). Put the request
on the appropriate page (that is either a bot request page either some much
visited community page or even possibly the talk:Main_Page in the extreme
case) and give those folks the ability to protest to the new bots. if they
don't want them, well, it's their wiki, their choise. If that is because of
wrong information, well, either inform them well, either leave it there. I
think it is totally wrong if stewards are forcing bots up their throat.

And btw, I am confident that you are able to write some script to make that
making the requests somewhat easier in the first place... For the stewards
it makes no difference btw, because we have to grant hte rights seperately
anyways...

Effeietsanders

2007/9/8, White Cat <wikipedia.kawaii.neko op gmail.com>:
>
> Yes, whats breaking the bot is human error. and as a fellow interwiki-bot
> operator I think it would be of great help if we were given some slack on
> bot flag bureaucracy. You could just use the bot to fix the bad
> interwikilink rather than fixing them manually. The policy would not solve
> everything but would be a good step in the right direction.
>
>       - White Cat
>
> On 9/7/07, Tuvic <tuvic.tuvic op gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Indeed, that's right. Just remember that interwiki-bots just spread
> > the bad link, they don't make it: it are human users who make the bad
> > link.
> >
> > It happened to me on several occasions: I had just spend 20 minutes to
> > untangle an web of interwiki-linked articles, and some user just puts
> > a bad link back, because he/she thinks that the link should be there.
> > Very annoying, and not always revertable: after all, I'm just an
> > interwiki-bot-operator, while it's their home wiki most of the time.
> >
> > So, not all problems would be avoided when having a general bot policy.
> >
> > Greetings, Tuvic
> >
> > 2007/9/7, White Cat <wikipedia.kawaii.neko op gmail.com>:
> > > Bots aren't sentient so they can act stupidly. There are situations
> > where
> > > you have a bad interwiki link. Unless that is removed from every
> single
> > > instance where it forms a chain it will eventually return to the list
> > (which
> > > makes sense, the bots think the wrong link as a new member to the
> > chain).
> > > However if all interwiki bots were able to operate on all wikis such
> > > problems could be very easily avoided.
> > >
> > >    - White Cat
> > >
> >
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