[Foundation-l] Google Analytics on Wikimania site

[Dan Rosenthal]

Far from it. When we're talking about a program with the ability to  
track what sites visitors are coming from (for instance, LGBT or  
other oppressed groups sites), and that information possibly being  
protected by our privacy policy, added to the fact that we don't even  
know who the person running the analytics program is sharing that  
information with, presents a real threat. I'm amazed you would  
consider it a non-sequitur.

  I don't wish to turn this topic into an Egypt thread because that's  
an 08 thing, not 07, but you're talking about an oppressive  
government with a history of tracking and arresting gays (all  
established in the other threads), possibly having access to private  
data that allows them to scan what websites users are going to, in  
some cases identify those websites to particular users, in some cases  
even identify WHO those users are, all because someone was allowed to  
install an analytic program, without individual user's having the  
ability to opt-in and opt-out. Yes, I know that we know who installed  
the program. We don't know who he shared that information with.  
THAT's the problem. Given that there are security concerns regarding  
the 08 Wikimania, it's far from a non-sequitur to think that those  
security conditions could be exacerbated by mishandling of private  
information.

In fact, what's to stop them from turning over the Wikimania 07  
information to Egypt for purposes of tracking someone at Wikimania  
08? Certainly some of the people are going to go to both.

So no, it's not a non-sequitur. It's a serious concern, one among  
many even more serious concerns regarding this breach of our privacy  
policy. The fact that I initially confused the 07 wikimania with the  
08 one notwithstanding, the concern is not alleviated.

-Dan
On Oct 18, 2007, at 1:53 PM, Austin Hair wrote:

> Regardless of what year it is, that's a total non sequitur.
>
> Austin
>
> On 10/18/07, Dan Rosenthal <swatjester at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I retract my statement. Somehow I forgot what year we were in  
>> right now.
>>
>> -Dan
>> On Oct 18, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Michael Bimmler wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/18/07, Dan Rosenthal <swatjester at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Please remove this? I personally do not want my data being  
>>>> tracked in
>>>> a manner that I did not opt into or was not offered the chance  
>>>> to opt
>>>> out of. I do not trust these analytics to be used responsibly
>>>> especially given the extensive safety concerns raised about  
>>>> Wikimania
>>>> in Egypt.
>>>>
>>>
>>> We're talking about 07, let's keep Egypt out of the discussion for
>>> once, okay?
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>> -Dan Rosenthal
>>>> On Oct 18, 2007, at 6:03 AM, Wikinews Markie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> was added to http://wikimania2007.wikimedia.org/wiki/
>>>>> MediaWiki:Copyright by
>>>>> Alexsh <http://wikimania2007.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Alexsh> on
>>>>> Februaury 9<http://wikimania2007.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?
>>>>> title=MediaWiki:Copyright&action=history>.
>>>>> this means that the code loads for all and is NOT opt in.
>>>>>
>>>>> mark
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/18/07, Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil at wikinewsie.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to clarify, this is on the '07 site
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
>>>>>> [mailto:foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>> McNeil
>>>>>> Sent: 18 October 2007 11:31
>>>>>> To: 'Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List'
>>>>>> Subject: [Foundation-l] Google Analytics on Wikimania site
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am told Google Analytics is running on the Wikimania wiki. I'm
>>>>>> not sure
>>>>>> where that would be put, and I'm also not sure that it is
>>>>>> appropriate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who put it in? And was there discussion before it was done?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brian.
>>>>>>
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