[Foundation-l] [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2008 will happen inAlexandria, Egypt

[GerardM]

Hoi,
The way I understand it, you should not openly kiss in public. <period>
never mind the sexual orientation. What is accepted of heterosexuals in the
Western World is not necessarily accepted elsewhere.

At best this issue is one issue. It is not a deciding issue, it is an issue
that can and should be weighed with others.

Thanks,
    GerardM

On 10/12/07, Gatto Nero <gattonero at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 2007/10/12, Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil at wikinewsie.org>:
> > Gatto Nero wrote:
>
> > The actual way I've interpreted most comments (and I emphasise most, not
> > all) of this nature has been "don't overtly display your sexuality".
> This
> > applied to gay, bi, *and* heterosexuals.
>
> Oh, come on: don't try to equiparate "being overtly heterosexual" with
> "being overtly homosexual". It's totally different, from a cultural
> point of view.
> Being heterosexual has been the normality for a loooong time, and it's
> very hard to be "overtly heterosexuals". It's not the same, and we
> should understand this.
> *Being overtly heterosexuals: fucking in the street
> *Being overtly homosexuals: speaking with a squeaky voice, holding
> another man's hand, sharing a double room...
>
> They're not parallels.
> It's minimizing.
>
> > >* Don't take a double room
> >
> > I don't know if it is as bad as that. Is it a case of the hotel staff
> will
> > look at you funny, or would it be worse than that?
>
> No idea, but the idea of not being _allowed_ to ask for a double, if I
> want to, it's absurd.
> I can decide not to take a double, but I don't have to be obliged to.
>
> > >* Don't flaunt your homosexuality
> >
> > This goes with what I said above; anywhere in the Middle East you don't
> > openly flaunt any flavour of sexuality.
>
> Read my answer above.
>
> > I don't care how many LGBT Wikimedians there are. Pigeonholing ourselves
> > into special interest groups with an axe to grind is counter-productive.
> > We're all Wikimedians.
>
> Exactly, and we have to take care of all.
>
> > So the 2008 Wikimania caught some flak, and the jury is in hiding from
> an
> > angry mob of homosexuals with torches and pitchforks. :-P Move on,
> factor
> > the concerns into the 2009 process. Do we have a list of candidates for
> that
> > yet? It would be far more productive to move on to critiquing the 2009
> > candidates than bemoaning an issue with the 2008 choice.
>
> On 2007, one of the question made to all the participants was "Are
> there problems with the GLBT community, in your country?".
> So they knew it.
> The problem is the jury understimated the problem, _this year_. I hope
> for the next year, but we're worsening.
>
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