[Foundation-l] [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2008 will happen in Alexandria, Egypt

David Strauss david at fourkitchens.com
Tue Oct 9 23:28:24 UTC 2007


phoebe ayers wrote:
> On 10/9/07, Dan Rosenthal <swatjester at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> In 1997 some 52 honor killings were reported in Egypt. The actual
>> figures in all of the countries I've cited are probably much higher
>> because most honor killings go unreported.
> 
> 
> Yes, well, there were also 69 murders and 156 rapes in the city of San
> Francisco alone last year [1], where the WMF is moving to soon; yet the fact
> that many of these killings are racially and sexually motivated and many of
> the rapes are intensely brutal has not led to calls that the WMF stay away
> from the big bad city here for moral reasons. My point: having liberal [2]
> western values does not directly translate into more safety for the resident
> or casual visitor; I haven't seen statistics about crime for visitors in
> Egypt yet.

I've stated that we have a duty to concern ourselves with more than our
own safety. Are you disputing this?

Your arguments rely on utilitarianism, yet I'm certain you would reject
a society with maximal persecution of the few and minimal crime overall.

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