[Foundation-l] New parser in the works - please help
Jon Harald Søby
jhsoby at gmail.com
Sat Nov 17 14:07:06 UTC 2007
Oops, I meant Christoph, not Christopher. The people from SC1 at
for those who attended.
2007/11/17, Jon Harald Søby <jhsoby at gmail.com>:
> Err, WikiCreole <http://wikicreole.org/>? It's already been done. But
> according to Chunk and Christopher, the MediaWiki developers were not
> willing to adapt MediaWiki to WikiCreole....
> 2007/11/17, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com>:
> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitext-l
> > Wikitext-l was formed from a recent discussion on wikitech-l about the
> > need to sanely reimplement the current parser, which is a Horrible
> > Mess and pretty much impossible to reimplement in another language.
> > The MediaWiki parser definition is literally "whatever the PHP parser
> > does." Some of what it does is arguably very wrong, pathological,
> > magical or just a Stupid Parser Trick. So the list has been formed to
> > come up with a grammar that defines all the useful parts of the
> > present parser, and so can be used by anyone to implement a MediaWiki
> > wikitext parser. This will be useful for other software, for WYSIWYG
> > editing extensions ... all manner of things.
> > Some of what some people would think of as a "stupid parser trick" is
> > in fact important - e.g. L'''uomo'' which renders as L<i>uomo</i>
> > (necessary for French and Italian).
> > So: we need to know what MediaWiki quirks are supporting important
> > constructs in languages other than English (which is the language the
> > list is in, and is the native language of most of the participants),
> > and particularly in non-European languages.
> > This list is unlikely to implement new features, e.g. (an example
> > brought up by GerardM) the double-apostrophe in Neapolitan. But we
> > really need to know about present important features that wouldn't be
> > obvious to an English-speaker going through the present parser code.
> > - d.
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