[Foundation-l] Wikimedia contacts

[Dan Rosenthal]

Agreeing with Michael, and my apologies for continuing the topic for  
one more post, but since the foundation doesn't get involved with IRC  
issues, please do not email OTRS about it. Regardless of the fact  
that it's the wrong place to address the issue, there's no guarantee  
that the OTRS reps will even have IRC op privileges and could even  
help you if they wanted.

-Dan Rosenthal
On Nov 12, 2007, at 1:29 PM, Michael Bimmler wrote:

> On Nov 12, 2007 7:15 PM, White Cat  
> <wikipedia.kawaii.neko at gmail.com> wrote:
>> OTRS? Under whose directive do the have greater authority than
>> wikimedia contacts? They certainly are not the right address for such
>> issues.
>
> Yes.
>
>>
>> I already explained this issue cannot be resolved on IRC JamesF is
>> busy. Seanw may help but this issue probably exceeded his deputy role
>> as a deputy contact.
>>
>
> How so?
>
>> My complaint isn't over the specific issue involving me. We have a
>> large gap between the foundation and the wikimedia contacts. If users
>> have problems with wikimedia contacts or if the wikimedia contacts  
>> are
>> not available for whatever the reason I should be able to resolve the
>> issue somehow. Right now thats the gap and the point of this inquiry.
>>
> The issue is that the foundation has declined and (to my knowledge)
> further declines to become involved with IRC by officialising the
> current inofficial 'Wikimedia' group on Freenode. You can like this or
> not, but as long as the foundation is not involved with this,
> foundation-l is the wrong place to discuss it. Full stop.
>
> Michael
>
>>        - White Cat
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2007 7:59 PM, Michael Bimmler <mbimmler at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Nov 12, 2007 6:53 PM, Comet styles <cometstyles at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Discussions should be done of IRC and not taken to mailing lists  
>>>> but
>>>> it that depends on the circumstances surrounding the discussion in
>>>> which case talk to channel contacts and if they can't solve it,  
>>>> take
>>>> it to OTRS.
>>>
>>> I agree with everything up to the last point. How and why on earth
>>> should OTRS people be asked to deal with such things? At least  
>>> some of
>>> the OTRS people don't even use IRC and I don't why they, as  
>>> Wikimedia
>>> Support Team, should become involved with intra-community issues...
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 13, 2007 4:32 AM, White Cat  
>>>> <wikipedia.kawaii.neko at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Where am I supposed to post it then?
>>>>>
>>>>>     - White Cat
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 12, 2007 6:25 PM, Pedro Sanchez <pdsanchez at gmail.com>  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2007 6:13 AM, Aphaia <aphaia at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2007 8:52 PM, Dan Collins <en.wp.st47 at gmail.com>  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And finally, why are we discussing this on foundation-l?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for pointing it out. Possibly to reassure that  
>>>>>>> particular IRC
>>>>>>> channel issues are off topic on this mailinglist basically,  
>>>>>>> and this
>>>>>>> incident (or those?) are sure falling in this off-topic  
>>>>>>> category, I
>>>>>>> suppose ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, it is so off-topic that I'd like to avoid giving my  
>>>>>>> opinion about
>>>>>>> that here on the list. Perhaps many of others too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> KIZU Naoko
>>>>>>> Wikiquote <http://wikiquote.org> is a free online project for  
>>>>>>> building
>>>>>>> collections of quotations, hosted by Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
>>>>>>> Quote of the Day (English): http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/WQ:QOTD
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes this is SO offtopic:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2007-June/ 
>>>>>> 030884.html
>>>>>>
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