[Foundation-l] Do we need a Code of Participation?

[GerardM]

Hoi,
I see your point, but the way I appreciate it is that you have to be BAD
before you are referred to "don't be a dick". I would hesitate before I
would tell someone this. When I do, I would prefer that the message is clear
and strong. "Be civil".. does not have teeth, it does not convey the message
that the other has transgressed what is acceptable to the same extend.
Thanks,
    GerardM

On 11/6/07, Marc Riddell <michaeldavid86 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> on 11/6/07 9:59 AM, GerardM at gerard.meijssen at gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Hoi,
> > It is nice to be against the wording of a policy that is well understood
> > because it is not "nice" in the way it is worded. It is another thing to
> be
> > as descriptive and clear in the messaging using other terminology. So
> how do
> > you intent to say "Don't be a dick" ?
> >
> <snip>
> >
> Gerard,
>
> When speaking or referring to someone directly on the Project's pages,
> it's
> time to get out from behind the anonymity & relative safety of cyberspace.
> Simply stated: Don't say anything to anyone that you wouldn't say to them
> if
> you were in person, face-to-face. This is not, of course, going to weed
> out
> all of the negative language that is posted, but it is going to call
> special
> attention to those who still persist. It is also a strong indicator of how
> that person regards others in general.
>
> Marc
>
> >
> > On 11/6/07, Marc Riddell <michaeldavid86 at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> on 11/6/07 9:18 AM, David Gerard at dgerard at gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 06/11/2007, Marc Riddell <michaeldavid86 at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> David, 'because everybody does it' is not an excuse to do something
> in
> >> the
> >>>> Wikimedia Projects. Wikimedia must create its own distinct identity;
> >> and its
> >>>> reputation and credibility will be a great part of that identity -
> and
> >> its
> >>>> use of language a crucial part as well.
> >>>> The language of social pages should not be the language of Wikimedia
> >>>> policies.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> No, I mean it's actually, functionally speaking, the first rule of all
> >>> social spaces on and offline.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> OK, the behavior the language is describing might be the "first rule",
> but
> >> "dick" and "jerk" still should have no place in Wikimedia policy
> language.
> >>
> >> Marc
> >>
> >>
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