[Foundation-l] [ANNOUNCEMENT] Greenspan illustration project

[GerardM]

Hoi,
Why would the WMF buy from the community for the rights to material that the
community already makes available in the first place ?

When the WMF pays specific people to do a specific job that involves the
creation or conversion of material in order to have more / better / whatever
illustrations for the Wikipedia project it is irrelevant whether they are a
member of the community as well. Again, I do not understand the relevance to
this list. It is up to the WMF to deal with taxes where and when they have
to be paid. It is none of our business.
Thanks,
    GerardM

On 11/3/07, George Herbert <george.herbert at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think you may misunderstand.  The concern is that the WMF will now, for
> the first time that I know of (but I could be ignorant), be paying or
> purchasing something (good, or services) from members of the community,
> and
> not from a normal vendor or paying an internal employee.
>
> The WMF might be required, under some interpretations of tax law in the US
> and how the payments are structured, to get a US IRS tax form (form 1099
> probably) for each person it paid for an illustration.  Which is a lot of
> administrative and recordkeeping headache and requires things like a
> social
> security number to be provided, etc.
>
> If it's structured so that the foundation is buying the rights to an
> image,
> then that may be outside the contractor / pay for work structure enough to
> be safe.  But this is legal / accountant territory.
>
>
> -george william herbert
>
> On Nov 2, 2007 6:03 PM, GerardM <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hoi,
> > Indeed. But in all instances, it is none of our business nor of the WMF
> > how
> > the donor handles it re his taxes. When we accept a gift and spend it
> > within
> > the limitations associated with that gift, how the WMF pays applicable
> > taxes
> > is of no concern to either the donor or to the Wikimedia community as it
> > is
> > part and parcel of spending the money.
> >
> > It is unlikely that the US tax office will restrict us from spending
> money
> > outside the US and consequently I do not understand at all why it is
> > relevant to consider taxes.
> > Thanks,
> >    GerardM
> >
> >
> > On 11/3/07, Sue Reed <sreed1234 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: GerardM gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
> > >
> > > Once money has been given to the WMF, the WMF can spend the money
> where
> > it
> > > wants. People or organisations may deduct taxes under certain
> > conditions.
> > > If
> > > these conditions are met is none of our business.
> > > Thanks,
> > >     GerardM
> > >
> > >
> > > That's not actually true. US-based non-profits typically have
> restricted
> > > funds and non-restricted funds. Money given under non-restricted funds
> > can
> > > be used however the non-profit feels is necessary. However, money
> > > specifically given to certain projects must be used for those
> projects.
> > > Reading Cary's email, it looks like this gift was given *specifically*
> > for
> > > use in creating various illustrations for Wikipedia projects. That is
> > the
> > > only thing that the money can be used for. IANAL and don't have access
> > to
> > > the specifics of the grant, but things like employment taxes would
> > probably
> > > be covered. Most grants require specific accounting back to the people
> > > giving the money on how they funds were spent.
> > >
> > > Sue Anne
> > > sreed1234 at yahoo.com
> > >
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