[Foundation-l] Native American Tribes Policy
Fred Bauder
fredbaud at waterwiki.info
Tue May 15 21:30:05 UTC 2007
I think your concern is overblown. Most such issues are adequately resolved by Wikipedia:Verifiablility which requires a reliable source for information included in Wikipedia. These sources usually contain information which casts doubt on their status. Inclusion of that material under our Wikipedia:Neutral point of view usually adequately illustrates questions regarding status.
Fred
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeffrey V. Merkey [mailto:jmerkey at wolfmountaingroup.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:47 AM
>To: 'Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List'
>Subject: [Foundation-l] Native American Tribes Policy
>
>
>I started a policy which was subsequently rejected by Wikiality based
>concensus.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Native_American_Tribes
>
>The basic problem here is that non-Federally recognized groups claiming
>to be Indian Tribes can expose the Foundation and Wikipedia to
>considerable liability and negative publicity. By way of example, when
>James Mooney was indicted in Utah for impersonating an Indian not only
>was he charged, so was the person running his websites and posting the
>false information. Mooney was indicted for 19 first degree felony
>counts for operating a CEE (Continuing Criminal Enterprise) for the
>purposes of distributing peyote. The Southern Cherokee Nation (which is
>not a real tribe) under currently operating illegal riverboat casinos
>and using their claims of being a Federally recognized tribe to justify
>their activities.
>
>Wikipedia needs to exclude these fake tribe from the project. Any of
>these tribes can bring legal action against the Foundation, as can the
>Federal Government if fake groups are allowed to claim they are indian
>tribes, then use Wikipedia as a basis to claim credibility and break the
>law. This can have two possible outcomes. The genuine tribes (who
>have Federal support and Federal funding) can withdraw financial support
>from the project and/or Wikipedia can be exposed to negative publicity
>and loss of public trust by the legitimate tribes, as well as being
>exposed to Federal Prosecution if these groups use the project to
>violate US laws.
>
>I am of Cherokee, German, and English ancestry, but I do not claim I am
>a citizen of Germany or the UK., even though I am of these bloodlines as
>well as Cherokee. The same applies to Native Tribes recognized by the
>US Government. These tribes are sovereign governments, and members are
>citizens. For someone who claims Indian ancestry to set themselves up
>as a tribe purports claims they are citizens of a non-recgnized
>sovereign. It would be the same as for me to claim I am a German or UK
>citizen just because I have ancestry from these groups, which would be a
>false claim. The same applies to Indian Nations.
>
>I will be unable to garner support from the tribes to publicly support
>Wikipedia from other tribes if such a policy does not exist, since any
>fake group can claim they are an indian tribe when they are not. Please
>read the text of the policy, and the Foundation needs to make a decision
>about this matter. Tribes which are not Federally recognized in the US
>are NOT indian tribes, and numerous legal liabilities are created if we
>allow these groups to post false information into the project.
>
>Jeff
>
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