[Foundation-l] Native American Tribes Policy (fix spelling)

Jeffrey V. Merkey jmerkey at wolfmountaingroup.com
Tue May 15 19:18:17 UTC 2007


Jeffrey V. Merkey wrote:

>Joe Szilagyi wrote:
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>>On 5/15/07, geni <geniice at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>On 5/15/07, Jeffrey V. Merkey <jmerkey at wolfmountaingroup.com> wrote:
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>>>>Criminal liaibility is not exempted under this section. Better go read
>>>>it again.
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>>>Ok what is the exact federal statute you think the foundation would be
>>>in violation of?
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>>Based on the wording of the proposal, and Jeffrey's wording here, the sense
>>seems to be that the policy is meant to appeal both to the sensibilities of
>>the tribal nations, as well as supporting the ideal that only the United
>>States Federal government can decide who's a legitimate "Indian tribe".
>>Several issues, unless I'm being dense or ignorant, with all that.
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>>1. "en.wikipedia.org" isn't "unitedstates.wikipedia.org". Wikipedia's only
>>obligation to the US is to not break laws where they're hosted. Anything
>>else is irrelevant, since it's explicitely not supposed to be an American
>>encyclopedia.
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>>2. The United States has zero jurisdiction on "who is Indian" outside of the
>>United States. Are tribes in Canada reliant on US law?
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>>3. Why are we worrying about appealing to the support and/or sensibilities
>>of the tribes with their own policy? Do we have WP:Muslim, WP:Jews,
>>WP:Hungarian, WP:Tamil, and WP:Somalians?
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>Good point on number 3. Who cares about the sensibilities here anyway. 
>It's simply an issue of WP:V.
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>If they are not recognized, then how can they be verified as Indian 
>Tribes? What if I setup a website claiming to be the
>president of Germany? Can someone cite it in a wikipedia article since 
>there is a web page to claim it?
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>Jeff
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