[Foundation-l] PD in Israel

Yann Forget yann at forget-me.net
Tue May 1 18:07:37 UTC 2007


Luiz Augusto a écrit :
> On 4/28/07, Ryan Dabler <zhaladshar at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 4/27/07, Luiz Augusto <lugusto at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'm on a similar problem at the Portuguese Wikisource due to the
>>> [[:m:American non-acceptance of the rule of the shorter term]] (see on
>>> [1];
>>> but the problem is on PD-old-70 and posthumous works).
>>> I've proposed in a private e-mail to Anthere (not yet replied, I think
>>> that
>>> she is busy in others subjects) to create a set of wikis <lang>.non-
>>> us.wikisource.org hosted outside of the United States ({{derivative}}
>> from
>>> the Debian non-us software repository [2]) to host works PD-old
>> worldwide
>>> but copyrighted in the USA.
>> Why not just upload the texts to http://wikilivres.info ?  The servers for
>> the site are located in Canada, and it was created by [[s:fr:User:Yann]].
>> It seems like we would just be recreating the wheel here with this
>> proposal
>> when a good alternative already exists.
> Yann has a really good initiative setting up the wikilivres.info some
> mounths ago. But unfortunatelly this have limitations. Wikilivres currently
> is so much like the Wikisource at the beginning: a ambitious multilingual
> project in a single wiki site. I know the Wikisource project since 2004
> (when I have created my first user account on wikisource.org/wiki: Lugusto,
> User ID 568). But I'm a active editor on Wikisource only since April 2006.
> This isn't a coincidence. Is so much confuse to work in a project like
> Wikisource on a multilingual wiki. The user interface is one, you try to
> search from a writer and you get a page in spanish, you try to read a text
> and get a page on italian...

At the beginning, I only thought about hosting documents in French. Then
I found that there are documents in English which might be usefully
hosted there. So now the objective it is to change Wikilivres to a fully
multilingual wiki. Just now, I have doubt about the usefulness to have
several subdomains seeing the number of users and documents, but I am
open to changes. Anyway you are much welcome to start a Portuguese
section there. And please come to discuss on #wikilivres on Freenode or
put suggestions on the wiki itself, as this is a bit offtopic here. ;o)

> Anyway, is impossible to link to a page at the wikilivres.info from
> Wikipedia, Wikibooks (or from Wikisource itself) without using a external
> link. This isn't userfriendly.

A solution was proposed for that.

> (FYI I'm going to propose to the small community from Portuguese Wikisource
> to ignore the non-aceptance of a short term from the USA copyright laws on
> adding texts, but listing the incompatible ones; if in a near future this
> generates some king of problem, all affected works can be easily
> moved/deleted to some place and no one may try to boot a admin from
> Wikisource if he gets prohibited to upload a work that are in public domain
> in their country [and possibly worldwide, except on the USA])

Well, most projects follow this line upto now.


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