[Foundation-l] Wikibooks NL is changing License

effe iets anders effeietsanders at gmail.com
Fri Mar 23 10:51:34 UTC 2007

I approached Brad, and I understood from him that it is, if correctly
done (things like good notes, clear explanation etc), ok. The
foundation is still working on a licensing policy, Erik Moeller posted
a few times about this on this list, and as far as what I know about
the current status, the proposal that has been on this list, this
licensing is within those borders. The dual license is actually more
free for re-users, so from that point of view, it should be fine.

@David Gerard: We chose CC-BY-SA-2.5 or later. So a re-user can choose
which one to use, 2.5 or 3.0 or any later version. If someone has
important reasons to choose even an earlier version, please let us

Further I think Robert Horning explained very well what the idea is
behind this. It is true that we make it a little harder for ourselves
when writing content. But I beleive that we make it a lot easier to
re-users and that this makes it worth while. I beleive strongly that
the combination of GFDL and CC-BY-SA offers the best opportunities to
people who want to print books at the end, and that is what Wikibooks
is going I hope. I hope we can show that the problems are minimal, and
that for small communities it is still possible to switch to dual
licensing. Of course I understand that for most Wikipediae this doesnt

One more advantage of Wikibooks in this: a wikibook has usually a more
limited number of users who are writing on a page. This way it would
be easier to approach them all to ask to relicense their previous
contributions under this dual license, so the examptions would be
less. Of course we have to watch out that imported pages can not that
easily be relicensed. But nl.wikibooks has already activated the
import-function for quite a while, so it is clear who wrote what. (as
you import a page with history then)


2007/3/23, Jerome Banal <jerome.banal op gmail.com>:
> Hi,
> For records, a similar request has been made to the board after some
> discussions on the list for allowing a potential switch to dual-licensing
> for Wiktionary FR beginning of December.
> This has still not received approval so I suppose you decided this without
> seeking this first. Am I wrong?
> Not at all that I am complaining, I would be happy to see this happening,
> but I suppose that as no answer has come that means that the Foundation
> might see some problems with it. In particular, it seems that they have a
> lot of discussions with FSF and CC regarding licensing right now, so I guess
> they don't have much visibility about potential changes.
> Regards,
> Jerome (Eden2004)
> 2007/3/22, effe iets anders <effeietsanders op gmail.com>:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > The Wikibooks NL community has decided to change the default license
> > of the textbooks for the future. That will mean that from a certain
> > point in the near future all new submitted changes and new texts will
> > be default double licenced under GNU FDL *and* CC-BY-SA-2.5 or later.
> > The texts that are currently in Wikibooks NL will be marked as "GFDL
> > only". This is so the project will be better able to spread it's
> > content (as the reuser has a choise to use only a page of the
> > wikibooks project without printing all the license etc)
> >
> > If every contributor of a certain page has agreed to relicense all
> > his/her contributions on Wikibooks NL, also those in the past, under
> > both licenses, the template stating the excemption of the default will
> > be removed.
> >
> > It will still be possible to import pages from Wikipedia NL to
> > Wikibooks NL. This will mean that a small part of the newly created
> > pages will also be marked as "GFDL only". The community has taken some
> > more precautions, such as creating templates to relicense all you
> > contributions (HINT: {{Dubbel}}) and a page with explanation, but it
> > would be too much in detail to explain that on this list. See this
> > please as announcement, and contact the Wikibooks NL community through
> > our Tutors' Chamber ([[b:nl:Wikibooks:Lerarenkamer]])
> >
> > With kind regards,
> >
> > Lodewijk Gelauff
> >
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