[Foundation-l] Advertising; leading; advocacy; propaganda; advocacy; usernames on Wikimedia wikis.
Ray Saintonge
saintonge at telus.net
Sun Mar 18 07:18:41 UTC 2007
Mohamed Magdy wrote:
>This might sound off-topic; but I had to ask here first before starting
>on-wiki discussion in order to create a new official policy on the
>Arabic wikipedia. also because the user who is the reason for this
>requested no farther conversation with him/her until she/he gets a word
>from the foundation about it.
>
It makes no sense to have this settled at the foundation level. What is
objectionable in a user name is very much dependent on the language and
culture involved. It is not for us English speakers to rule on the
subtleties of the Arabic language.
>Simply, the issue is a case of advertising using a username, as you all
>probably have seen it before.
>
>
>More detailed: a user of ours in ar.wp have choosen to contribute to the
> Arabic wikipedia and a three another wikimedia wikis(as s(he) mentions
>in my talk page) under the name of صوت للبتراء, as you can see; this
>name is translated as "Vote for Petraa", you can see here the imperative
>form in 'Vote' and the advocacy/propaganda of saying Vote for
>Petraa..for those of you who might haven't heard; there is currently a
>project/event called the new 7 wonders of the world[1], the Petraa is
>one of the nominees in this event[2]..I have nothing againest new 7
>wonders or what so ever.. but I wondered, "Wikipedia isn't for these
>kind of things" and "the users should not use such nicknames or it will
>be a good tool for advertising whatever they need" and "Wikipedia isn't
>a front to tell people to vote for something" and "it is annoying each
>time I take a look at that nickname with its imperative nature" and such
>thoughts etc.
>
While I personally would be tolerant of such a name, and would tend to
allow him to keep the name, I am not a part of the ar:wp community.
This is yourcommunity's decision in accordance with the rules that you
already have. One point to be noted is that many people who start
editing by having a controvery over their user nanes tend not to stay
very long. By the time you sort out your rules he may already have left
out of boredom.
>So, I'm simply asking; is such usernames to be tolerated? and if it
>isn't, can you please write something from the 'foundation' as
>"User:Vote for Petraa" or "صوت للبتراء" says to say that? and if it is
>really tolerated(it would seem strange though), would a consensus on
>ar.wp of the active editors be sufficient to activate a policy so that
>users will use non-advertising titles etc. in their nicknames/usernames.
>
If those are your normal practices, yes.
Ec
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