[Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Accountability: bringing back a proposal I made nearly 2 years ago

Voice of All jschulz_4587 at msn.com
Sat Mar 10 08:02:16 UTC 2007

I'd rather not have this involve the foundation, but rather some local
"approvals" committe like the bot approvals group or something similar,
though a bit more serious.

One advantage to this would be for constructing the user groups needed for
revision tagging.

Erik Moeller-4 wrote:
> On 3/5/07, Anthony <wikilegal at inbox.org> wrote:
>> There are two parts to the suggestion: 1) marking some statements with
>> a "verified credentials" tag, and 2) a "policy of gentle (or firm)
>> discouragement for people to make claims like those that EssJay made,
>> unless they are willing to back them up".
> I'm cross-posting this to wikipedia-l and foundation-l, because it may
> very well become a Foundation-level issue at some point.
> I would support the following:
> 1) Any user can ask for his or her professional credentials to be
> verified.
> 2) Making up professional credentials is prohibited, and may result in
> a ban. (This may or may not be covered by existing policy, but judging
> from the Essjay case, it is probably not sufficiently clear.) This is
> independent of whether or not the user asks for credentials to be
> verified. We may investigate claims that are dubious when they are
> pointed out to us.
> 3) Any user trusted on admin level or higher who makes a statement of
> credentials on their user page must have them verified through a team
> of volunteers designated to this role by the Wikimedia Foundation (we
> may want to involve the chapters if this becomes international). The
> process of verification could be similar to what Citizendium uses,
> i.e.:
> a) have an existing, credentialed user vouch for the credentials to be
> correct based on personal knowledge,
> b) respond to an email associated with a reliable institution, and
> point us to a web page of that institution where their credentials are
> listed,
> c) point to someone associated with a reliable institution we can
> contact to verify the credentials.
> We may extend this to regular users if it proves to scale well.
> 4) Users with verified credentials will get a little "Verified
> credentials on <date>" marker on their user page, nothing more. This
> marker would ideally be independent of the wikitext of the page, and
> set in the user table instead.
> I am opposed to any marker of edit contributions and such -- users who
> care about credentials can look them up, those who do not care should
> not be bothered by them in discussions or contributions.
> -- 
> Peace & Love,
> Erik
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