[Foundation-l] Following the conventions: seperating Wikisource

GerardM gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Tue Jun 5 06:19:07 UTC 2007

Everybody assumes that Wikipedia is to be the first project to introduce a
new language. This is however not a given. When a new language is introduced
for Wikisource, the requirements for a new language still apply.
Particularly the language is to be approved to conform to what is considered
to be that language.

Consequently, when a new language is to be started first in Wikisource, the
requirements are not waived. What can be discussed is to host it in
Wikisource... However it would NOT be an approved language nor an approved
project until it meets the requirements as specified by the language
committee. This is not something that can be voted on.


On 6/5/07, Dovi Jacobs <dovijacobs at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi. The model that Wikisource follows here is similar to Wikiversity:
> Just as at Wikiversity, the Wikisource "incubator" is within Wikisource
> itself. We consider this to be a much more supportive (and better monitored)
> environment for new languages (rather than the generic
> incubator.wikimedia.org) for a number of reasons. When such languages are
> ready, they can then recieve their own subdomains. Until then, they always
> have a proper place to build their content.
> In fact, my personal suggestion is that new test languages for all
> existing Wikimedia projects (Wikipedia, Wikibooks, etc.) should be hosted by
> those projects themselves, rather than at a generic incubator. The
> Wikiversity/Wikisource model works very nicely indeed, providing a closer
> sense of a project-wide environment for new test-languages, with a common
> logo and framework for parallel new languages in the project, while the
> generic incubator is rather cold and unfriendly (take a look at its main
> page). There is no way that a single separate wiki for all new languages in
> all projects at once can provide proper guidance, supervision, and
> monitoring. Perhaps the incubator would be better left for testing entirely
> new Wikimedia projects.
> As for the Wikisource portal, because it is at wikisource.org rather than
> on Meta, you will find that it is much better supported than the portals for
> other Wikimedia projects, which are often out-of-date ("out-of-site" >>
> "out-of-mind"), and often have aesthetic or other problems that take longer
> to fix. People go to Wikisource and make direct suggestions for Portal
> updates right there at the talk page, and Wikisource admins take care of
> things immediately because they are always around at the wiki. Here too,
> this may be a better model than the convention for other projects.
> Dovi Jacobs
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