[Foundation-l] Sigh, problems with non-Latin usernames again
chiesa.marco at gmail.com
Tue Jan 30 12:20:18 UTC 2007
David Gerard wrote:
>On 30/01/07, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen a gmail.com> wrote:
>>What you call unrealistic is basically something that is something that
>>people do not do anyway. People on the English Wikipedia can read my
>>name easily enough, they cannot pronounce it properly, they do not know
>>if there is a meaning to my name. The only thing they need to do is
>>register that the characters in my name exist. That is all that is required.
>Yes, but that's easy for users of Latin characters because your name
>is written in Latin characters. That's not an example of the problem.
Let's make some practical examples of users with bona fide non-latin
usernames (choosing a different script only to look cool may be another
Some (maybe most) will practically only add interwikis - they may or may
not speak English, they won't care about the community, maybe in the
past they would have put the interwikis anonimously and with SUL they
find a reason to edit with a username. Basically they just help, they
don't cause trouble and pretty much who cares if you don't recognise
them. If they add at a vaguely fast rate, patrollers will easily realise
that it's always the same guy. If you use CDVF you may just whitelist
them so you won't be bothered in future.
A few (very few, hopefully) are vandals, they will just vandalise pages
like any other vandal. You block them indefinitely, there's nothing
racist in it.
Some of them will occasionally contribute a bit more substantially, they
may occasionally put a signature on some talk pages. You may ask them to
do something to be recognisable, they may or may not do it.
Finally, some of them will be really active contributors. I would find
rather fair that these people are asked to put something that makes them
recognisable in their signature. If they're active users, the request
would probably seem quite reasonable.
Now, I guess it would be more useful to have something that makes
usernames recognisable from the Recentchanges or Histories, rather than
signatures. If you want to appear as someone else, you would make your
signature very similar - and with non-Latin characters it's even easier.
ID Numbers are pretty ugly, it would still be quite hard to recognise
12345678 from 12354678. Automatic transliteration is not really an
option AFAIK, and ask the user to provide a version of the username in
another script is unrealistic (I wouldn't have a clue on how to write my
username in Arabic or Chinese - nor I would actually see a reason to do
so, although I occasionally have added a couple of interwikis on these
projects). Personally, as soon as they don't choose the local equivalent
of User:F**k, I don't really care how they call my username in a funny
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