[Foundation-l] Board meeting in Rotterdam later this week

teun spaans teun.spaans at gmail.com
Wed Jan 17 20:37:55 UTC 2007

I took a look at the xenu article and dont see any reason for including the
bbc screen shot. Likewise, the artcile remains perfectly understandable
without the book covers and handwriting. Hence, there is no need to include
these fair use images, and make the article undistributable in large parts
of the world.

Please keep in mind that we english wiki is not the same as USA. The stuff
on the english wiki should be equially well usable all over the world: UK,
australia, canada, new zealand, israel, african countries, india, you name
it. The need for fair use images is often greatly exaggerated.

Please keep in mind:
a) our aim is to cerate an encyclopedia the knowledge of which can be freely
modified and distributed
b) our aim is not to illustrate articles for the sake of illustration
c) our aim is not to exploit all loopholes of USA law
d) our aim is not  be nice to each other and  thus ruin our goal
e) our aim is only to built an encyclopedia in all languages of which all
knowledge is truly free.

kind regards,

On 1/17/07, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 17/01/07, geni <geniice at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 1/17/07, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I'm fine with book and album covers in an article substantially
> > > dealing with the book or album or its cover specifically - that's
> > > clearly fair use. It's when e.g. it's a general illustration on an
> > > artist article that it's pushing it.
> > Why? If you want to view images as quotes then their use only makes
> > sense when the article talks about the images.
> No, that's an illustration of the thing actually being talked about
> that can't really be substituted (the way a picture of a living person
> can).
> My favourite example is [[Xenu]]. I think the BBC and South Park
> screencaps could be lived without, but the book covers, Sea Org logo
> and snippet of Hubbard's handwriting are entirely relevant fair use in
> an educational article about Xenu.
> - d.
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