[Foundation-l] pro & con Wikiseek

Brad Patrick bradp.wmf at gmail.com
Tue Jan 16 23:22:32 UTC 2007

Just so everyone is clear - Wikiseek is *not* a Wikimedia project and to 
my knowledge, *not* a Wikia project either.  Funding, although announced 
on the wikiseek site, is not a formal agreement with WMF.

I won't reply to the rest before I talk to Wikiseek myself.  I'm not 
clear, though, on the nature of the claim that it is a violation of the 
GFDL.  Why precisely do you think the titles of pages can't be used 
without a violation of the GFDL?


Thomas Müller wrote:
> Hi,
> I like the idea of wikiseek, to index only wikipedia content and the urls edited in wikipedia as weblinks.
> This was as well the concept develped here on the net.
> So it is a "w+1" hop" concept.
> Contra: The problem is, 
> - that the database is still not open (where to download?)
> - the search box of wikipedia already is doing the function
> - it is a advertising spin-off of wikipedia ?, which is introducing advertising through the backdoor into wikipedia.
> - Is this a Jimmy engine ? or just hosted at wikipedia?
> - quote:, "of course i am sad that it is a company rather than an open source project" - so the spin-of is taking a distance to the open source approace of the coding and the open source approach of the database,
> - searching wikiseek will found wikipedia? this is not the way to go, as we can found wikipedia directly, all other is oeconomic corruption of an encyclopaedie? - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCPA
> - Searchme was co-founded by Randy Adams, CEO, and John Holland, CMO. The Company received initial funding from Sequoia Capital, so nothing related to the goals of Jimmy?
> - not a java engine
> - this project is disturbing the community, as no one knows the network and relationships for the collaboration from whom to whom.
> - wiki goes oeconomic?
> - if it is not open source, why then not using google.
> - wikiseek is violating the GPL licence of wikipedia, as users give the urls reviewed by hand to wikipedia as  well in licence of GPL. Any Bibliographic index has a copyright, and this is GPL for the external lists of weburls to each article, as the url is not just an url, but a content reference of the article. As the database of wikiseek is using and summarizing them, and it is not a GPL database of wikisek, this is a licence conflict.
> Well, the draft of this search engine proposal is good, but not workable on the market, as any wikipedia has a search box for the works and as well you get the external links in the acticle after you have read it.
> any comments? ;-)
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 23:37:26 +0100
>> Englisch:
>> http://www.wikiseek.com/index.php
>> http://wikiseek.wikia.com/wiki/Wikiseek_Community_Wiki
> Wikiseek is a new way to search Wikipedia. Wikiseek searches only Wikipedia and external Wikipedia links. Because these links are selected by the Wikipedia community, Wikiseek search results are likely to return more relevant results for many searches. 
> This Wikiseek Community Wiki is hosted by Wikia but Wikiseek is an independent project with no affiliation with Wikia or Wikipedia.

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