[Foundation-l] Board meeting in Rotterdam later this week

geni geniice at gmail.com
Wed Jan 10 22:56:16 UTC 2007

On 1/10/07, effe iets anders <effeietsanders at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear David,
> knowing the Dutch language Wikipedia-community, I think almost everybody
> will agree with me that it is no "easy" community. some communitymembers are
> now trying to approve a non-free license on the Dutch language Wikipedia,
> the CC-NC. This license is imcompatible with the GNU FDL, and I think that
> it is, due to GFDL, not allowed to use it on Wikipedia on articles. It is
> not something to have an opinion about really, it is or it isn't allowed by
> GFDL. You can at most have another view on the license. I think it is very
> very important that the Foundation makes it clear for once and for ever what
> licenses are acceptable on the Wikimedia projects. It is very hard to
> explain to people why one project thinks the use of NC (not to speak of fair
> use) is allowed, and why other projects state it isnt. It's not even a
> question of local law, it is about what is allowed by the GFDL license.

No we deal with that issue by useing the collective work clause (not
it's proper name). Articles with images in are a collection of
diffferent works thus the images can be under any lisence as far as
the GFDL is concernded.

> In the Dutch language community we have actually not a single expert on the
> area of copyright and licenses. I doubt lot of other communities have. (With
> an expert I mean someone who has studied law and is specialized in that
> aera) So at the end people like you and me have to make this kind of
> fundamental choises about licenses, even though we do not know what exactly
> we are talking about, we are just guessing. (just assuming you are not one
> of those experts, by coincidense) A lot of small communities are struggling
> with this, and I think it would be very wise of the Foundtaioin to help
> those communities, to help especially the Dutch language wikipedia-community
> in this, as we have already enough to fight over, by getting a legal advice
> with an expert, and make a choise in result of that. An advice would require
> in my opinion a same amount of efford, so I really urge to "rules" from
> above, although I am usually no big fan of that. So I second heartely Hay's
> request, please bring some light in the darkness, and let the blind people
> see again.

FSF publishes a list of lisences and describes them. While we
dissagree over CC wikipedia tends to follow the defintions fairly


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