[Foundation-l] Donation of DVDs to Wikimedia Foundation Projects

Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Wed Jan 3 04:08:10 UTC 2007

Gregory Maxwell schreef:
> On 1/2/07, Erik Moeller <erik at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> On 1/3/07, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> If Internet archive is paying substantially less for bandwidth than we
>>> do, then we're doing something wrong.
>> It's possible that we are doing something wrong. We should find out.
>> ;-) But aside from whatever they are paying, they have other sources
>> of funding than we do.
> Still, it seems very premature to shape our decisions around bandwidth
> concerns which do not yet exist. How much traffic are we talking
> about? If we don't know, how could the internet archive fairly accept
> it?
Bandwidth is very much a concern because they cost money. Saying that 
these concerns do not exist while we are doing a fund-raiser  that needs 
to get us $1.500.000,- is a bit naff.  Then again, as I said in the 
past, Kennisnet has offered to consider hosting video. They have even 
included the ogg movie formats to their application if I remember well. 
You may remember, Kennisnet, the organisation that does much of our 
European traffic for the WMF ??
>> The strength of wiki is not the power to raise enough funds to host
>> large files. In fact, we're still pretty bad at fundraising.
> We are bad in terms of viewership vs income. In absolute terms, I
> think we're not doing so bad.. How many internet/technology projects
> can you name that bring in $1M USD/yr with pretty much only website
> panhandling?  There are a lot of low hanging fruit, and I have
> confidence for us in the future.
I am sure you base this confidence on the fact that our needs grow not 
quite as exponentially as the growth we are achieving in the 
provisioning of our services. I am really happy that you recognise a lot 
of "low hanging fruits" .. this will help as we need more of them as it is.


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