[Foundation-l] This is not an Advertisement @ pgunn

Birgitte SB birgitte_sb at yahoo.com
Tue Jan 2 20:57:47 UTC 2007

--- Walter van Kalken <walter at vankalken.net> wrote:

> Thanks for all you have done for the projects and
> good luck in your 
> further endeavours!
> Waerth
> >I reply specifically to Brion Vibber's message
> here:
> >
> >
> >
> >I find it very unfortunate that Brion characterises
> >people like me, who have been on the project for
> many
> >years, as being uncaring about our values. I care
> deeply
> >about the project, and feel that accepting
> advertising,
> >whether it be for brand identity or a specific
> product,
> >as unacceptable. The Spanish wikipedia and the many
> users
> >who have put userboxen against advertisements (as
> ironic
> >as that is) on their userpages should've taught
> Brion
> >(and others involved) that the values of the
> community
> >*do* have a substantial number of people who will
> never
> >accept this kind of thing. After reading some of
> the other
> >comments on this list and chatting with a few
> folks, I
> >understand that my concerns, while considered, will
> not be
> >addressed. To me, Wikipedia (and related projects)
> are and
> >must be noncommercial if I am to be involved - it
> is impossible
> >to honestly educate with one hand while waving a
> billboard
> >with the other.
> >
> >I greatly regret the wrong turn the community
> >has made here, for it is not something I will live
> with and
> >stay. Y'all may want to keep a close eye on the
> Spanish
> >Wikipedia. Goodbye, all. You may do what you wish
> with my
> >accounts - I have left a note on my LSS project (to
> summarise
> >the foundation lists) that a new project head is
> needed.
> >
> >http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/LSS
> >
> >If y'all want to see it continue, someone needs to
> pick up
> >the ball. 

I will pick up the ball here.  I think LSS is an
extremely important project.  I thank you for your
work in starting LSS as well as all your other


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