[Foundation-l] alternatives

Anthere Anthere9 at yahoo.com
Tue Jan 2 15:02:22 UTC 2007


Teun Spaans wrote:
> A number of people answered this call. A summary of ideas from the dutch pub:
> * save money on bandwith by symplfying html. - however, I checked and
> html seems already pretty lean.
> * Save discspace by deleting older versions of articles - probably
> contradicts GFDL.
> * Make lists of charities. Foundation board is probably already doing this.
** I remember seeing such a list from Danny. But yes, that's something 
we should work on.

> * There were a number of people who suggested running selected commercial ads.
> * Distributed storage - technically probably not yet feasible
> * Grid computing
> * Publish thematical information as commercial books
** legal risk associated with publishing (same for dvd below), but we 
can have others publish or sell them, and get royalties. Hopefully, a 
deal will soon be signed up on this matter, which I hope we can generalized.

> * Sell dvds, either whole encyclopedia or thematical
> * Make deals with clones or block them
There are a handful of such deals. Just a handful.

> * Same for news agencies
Not sure I see how it would bring money. How so ?

> * Make bio info available for pda's. A lot easier to carry around than
> field guides
Same question. Making it available only against a payment ?

> * Asks subsidies from UN, EU and individual states.
Some expressed concerns with regards to independance. Limitations on 
this very topic is mostly lack of human resources to make the requests. 
Volunteers welcome.

> * Be more selective in accepting articles
> * Much of what we have is fancruft, and it seems fairly popular. Move
> all fanstuff to a separate project, outside wikipedia. Call if
> fanpedia or something. Let this project be more liberal in its
> acceptance of media, and let this project accept advertisements. This
> could probably support all wiki projects.
> * If images cost to much bandwidth, put a limit of 3 images / article.

I cant estimate the interest of technical suggestions.
thanks for the feedback

ant

> teun
> 
> On 12/29/06, Jeff V. Merkey <jmerkey at wolfmountaingroup.com> wrote:
> 
>>Old Chinese proverb:
>>
>>"... no matter how loud the wind howls, the mountain cannot bow to it ..."
>>
>>mountain = foundation
>>wind = people whining.
>>
>>:-)
>>
>>Jeff
>>
>>effe iets anders wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>Lots of people are yelling and shouting that the current vision and policy
>>>of the foundation is totally wrong. I would like to invite all these people
>>>and others to think about alternatives. We won't get rid of these ugly
>>>things (everybody agrees upon that, i guess) in the sitenotice without any
>>>serious alternatives. I already asked this in the Dutch Village Pump, I hope
>>>you will bring the question back to all your communities, to the places
>>>where is discussed about the sitenotice. I have myself troubles to come up
>>>with serious alternatives, so I hope you guys have one. And when you have
>>>one, then you can ideed start a discussion about which solution is better. I
>>>look forward to your ideas, and please keep the discussion about how bad the
>>>current solution is for other threads.
>>>
>>>Lodewijk / Eia
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