[Foundation-l] RfC: Draft licensing policy resolution

[Peter van Londen]

Hallo,

If it is not the intention: we should rewrite the EDP, because it leaves
that much room for the possibility effeietsanders is telling. In fact the
Dutch community will probably have to vote soon over 2 proposals: First one:
allowing images for "Just on Wikipedia", second allow ESA images (which are
according to the licence info from the ESA-website non-commercial and
non-derivative).

But any solution which aims at allowing Fair Use on one hand and disallowing
non-free licences on the other hand is, I think, not possible: our just
outright say it: All the projects have to abide by the
freedomdefined.orgdefinition, but the EN:WP, which may use Fair Use
images. That would be
clarity.

I know a large portion of the especially EN-community would not be able to
cope with a removal of all Fair Use images and that the board likes to find
a compromise between free licensed information and calmness in the biggest
community. But this EDP will open up possibilities for the other communities
to allow in fact non-free licensed pictures, and certainly community-members
not reading this list, will use this.

The Dutch-language community is more and more influenced from people who
have a different view about the ideals behind Wikimedia-projects as is
described in freedomdefined.org and they will probably now allow pictures
under the EDP (that is speculation though).

I hope that the draft can be changed, I have no problem with an exception
for the EN:WP if this is good for that community.

Kind regards, Londenp


2007/2/21, Kat Walsh <mindspillage op gmail.com>:
>
> On 2/20/07, effe iets anders <effeietsanders op gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think the point Peter is trying to make is, that communities will just
> put
> > the current NC or ND policy under the Fair Use policy in the EDP. they
> just
> > claim they use it as fair use, easy as that. With this resolution they
> dont
> > even have to proof that the image can not be replaced, they can just go
> on
> > as long as there is no replacement uploaded.
>
> That's not something that is intended -- that's what the big long
> previous message about NC and ND content was supposed to be about. You
> can't claim something as fair use unless it is genuinely fair use,
> whether all rights reserved or ND/NC. If something that happens to be
> ND  or NC licensed instead of all rights reserved is fair use, it
> should be treated no differently than material that is all rights
> reserved under than policy.
>
> -Kat
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