[Foundation-l] About transparency

[Marc Riddell]

on 12/28/07 12:55 PM, Derrick Farnell at derrick.farnell at gmail.com wrote:

>> 
>> there are
>> some requirements by the management to have persons who can help them
>> to have historical knowledge about the projets and to have an in depth
>> knowledge of the communities.
>> 
> 
> The community can also provide such knowledge.
> 
> The advantage of the board is that *the board change* with addition of
>> new persons who can bring *new* visions and *new* relations and *new*
>> experience.
>> 
> 
> The community can also provide all of that.
> 
> Personally I disagree any action of the management towards communities
>> *without* board's consultation: it could be a suicide.
>> 
> 
> I wasn't suggesting that management should make decisions without
> consultation - indeed, I was suggesting that they there should be more, not
> less, consultation, by consulting not just the board, but also the community
> as a whole.
> 
> Derrick Farnell

Derrick,

What mechanisms do we have in place where we could consult with the whole
Community?

Marc Riddell

> 
> 
> On Dec 28, 2007 12:49 PM, Ilario Valdelli <valdelli at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Personally I disagree with this vision (There is a board because
>> legally an association requires to have a board), because there are
>> some requirements by the management to have persons who can help them
>> to have historical knowledge about the projets and to have an in depth
>> knowledge of the communities. The management itself declare that.
>> 
>> IMHO the board *has got* this knowledge (and not a single person in
>> the board) because the board is heterogeneous, come from the
>> communities and all members seems to be (or to have been) wikipedians.
>> 
>> Without the board the management could take wrong ways.
>> 
>> The advantage of the board is that *the board change* with addition of
>> new persons who can bring *new* visions and *new* relations and *new*
>> experience.
>> 
>> Personally I disagree any action of the management towards communities
>> *without* board's consultation: it could be a suicide.
>> 
>> Ilario
>> 
>> On Dec 28, 2007 12:44 PM, Derrick Farnell <derrick.farnell at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Found the below interesting little piece about the Foundation on the web
>> (
>>> http://www.timshell.com/wikipedia/whyboard.html). I think it would help
>>> matters here if the current board stated whether it is still true today.
>> As
>>> I stated earlier in this thread, I'm not just concerned about the demise
>> of
>>> 'radical transparency', but also about the fact that the decision to
>> kill it
>>> off was apparently made without consultation with the community.
>>> 
>>> Derrick Farnell
>> 
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