[Foundation-l] David Shankbone in Israel
wikinewssvt at optonline.net
wikinewssvt at optonline.net
Wed Dec 19 13:48:15 UTC 2007
In my opinion, the first-hand story-telling nature of this article, is a clear violation of WN:NPOV which is not just a Wikinews policy, but also a Foundation issue (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Neutral_point_of_view).
Don't get me wrong, it is great journalism, which could prove to be a coup for Wikinews, raising its profile. However, it is incongruent with existing policies.
Ultimately, I fear that allowing this may be like opening Pandora's box.
Sincerely,
SVTCobra
(http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:SVTCobra)
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian McNeil
Date: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:09 am
Subject: [Foundation-l] David Shankbone in Israel
To: 'Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List'
Cc: David Shankbone
> David Shankbone's first report from Israel
> (http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Israel_Journal:_The_Holy_Land_has_an_image_prob
> lem) has provoked a bit of controversy. One reaction I got was
> "why the
> segue into the COO issue?" It annoys me to see that the MSM are
> now picking
> this up (the COO issue) and whilst The Register broke the story
> I don't
> think they did anything beyond fact-check what their source told them.
> Details from Wikinews' investigation have been lifted and
> written into
> recent coverage of the issue, we did check the Reg. story and we
> found more
> - including bankruptcy proceedings (PACER will give you a list
> of the
> creditors).
>
>
>
> Anyway, back to David in Israel, and I assume a fair number of
> people are
> aware this is an expenses-paid trip where the Israeli government
> and friends
> are footing the bill. David's first piece seeks to say "here is the
> stereotype, but that's not what I'm here for". If you read the
> talk you'll
> see we have some people think you can't do any story about
> Israel without
> going "OMG! Israel-Palestine! Car bombs! Terrorists! Human rights
> violations! Israeli oppression!". I agree with David's argument
> that this is
> like saying every coverage of the U.S. should have an aside
> about Camp Delta
> in Guantanamo - and I *know* people who'd do that too - we've
> had to ban
> idiots like that from Wikinews in the past.
>
>
>
> I'd like people on the list to read this with a critical eye and
> see what
> they think about Wikinews developing policies and structure to
> allow this
> sort of reporting. Keep any eye out for David's forthcoming
> reports. The
> indications I have from private email are that they're keeping their
> journalist guests busy about 12-14 hours a day and if they don't have
> breakfast with Israeli technologists it's probably the only meal
> of the day
> they're getting off the job. Not a holiday by any means.
>
>
>
>
>
> Brian McNeil
>
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