[Foundation-l] Racism in Commons

Yoni Weiden yonidebest at gmail.com
Wed Dec 5 23:59:47 UTC 2007

I wish to open a deletion request on all of the uploader's pictures, besides
one (for educational purposes). I am not an active member of Commons
(although I have uploaded many many images to the project). What should I
Yoni Weiden

2007/12/6, Andrew Whitworth <wknight8111 at gmail.com>:

> On Dec 5, 2007 3:06 PM, Waerth <waerth at asianet.co.th> wrote:
> > No it is exactly the same. I am not a Muslim myself. My parents raised
> > me Roman Catholic.
> >
> > One of the things I learned was that: It is considered a gross insult to
> > depict the prophet Muhammed!
> >
> > So by depicting him you are already insulting the Islam. which is just
> > as heavy an insult to a Muslim as showing Blair's testicles is to some
> > Brits. So these matters are exactly the same.
> >
> > Any cartoon depicting Muhammed are designed for shock-value for a
> > believing Muslim!
> This may be so, but Ariel Sharon is hardly a religious figure, he's a
> political one. The fact that he happens to be jewish doesn't mean that
> an insult to him is an insult to his religion. It's the same as saying
> that an insult to George Bush isn't an insult to christianity.
> Religious figures are taken way more seriously then political figures
> are, and this is an artificial construct. Consider, if the mohammed
> cartoon depicted an ordinary person and the ariel sharon cartoon
> depicted an ordinary person, which of the two would be worse? If these
> were just cartoons of ordinary people, and we had to draw a line in
> the sand with one of them staying and one going, which would you
> choose?
> The Ariel Sharon cartoon is far worse from the standpoint of general
> decency. Imagine a cartoon depicting Mohammed in the same position
> (bound, being urinated on and sexually assaulted), and imagine how
> much worse that cartoon would be then the one you linked to. There are
> degrees of indecency, and even though muslims can be touchy about
> mohammed, the ariel sharon cartoon has a much higher degree of general
> indecency.
> --Andrew Whitworth
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