[Foundation-l] A general wiki list?

Debbie Garside debbie at ictmarketing.co.uk
Thu Aug 23 11:11:39 UTC 2007

I think there should be rules of participation within any mailing list.
There are always one or two people who are intent upon upsetting the

FYI Herewith the (proposed) rules that have been formulated by the General
Assembly of the GNSO within ICANN.




> -----Original Message-----
> From: foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
> [mailto:foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf
> Of Milos Rancic
> Sent: 23 August 2007 03:02
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] A general wiki list?
> On 8/23/07, Brianna Laugher <brianna.laugher at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I don't think it's necessary; just get a moderator who will jump on
> > people who are hostile. (And no I'm not volunteering :)) You can
> > hardly mandate membership requirements for an open mailing list.
> The intention was just to show that the list shouldn't be a
> dominated by one group, but also to find some model against
> destructive people.
> And to put it into one rule. It seems that I am too much
> influenced by continental way of generating social rules ;)
> As you say...
> > I'm not sure if you intend this to be for all
> users/developers of all
> > wiki engines, or all editors on all specific wiki sites.
> Either way,
> > there are some interesting things out there I'm sure we could learn
> > from.
> I think that it should be a llist of all users and developers
> of all wiki engines.
> My primary intention was to make a place where people would
> be able to talk about wiki projects in general (or
> particular, whatever), but not related exclusively to WM
> projects. Even I am for a long time well introduced where to
> ask what, I completely understand frustration of the people
> who are trying to give some idea and to discuss about it, but
> very soon they realize that anything which is not related to
> WM is off topic here. So, wider community needs a general
> list where such talks will not be off topic.
> But, while thinking about the list (and supporting wiki) I
> realized that they may be used fo a number of other
> interesting things.
> For example, while MediaWiki today is growing into a dominant
> wiki engine, I think that pywikipediabot is the core of a new
> generation wiki engine which should replace MW in some
> future. But, even it is safe to say that both projects are WM
> projects, there is no list to discuss about that (mediawiki
> is for MediaWiki, wikitech is for Wikimedia related technical
> things, pywikipedia is for a pywikipediabot; maybe
> wikiresearch? but how many developers of MW and pwb are there?).
> Or, I think that MediaWiki is better software for revision
> control then CVS/SVN. And there is no place to talk about it
> wider. I would like to talk about it with, for example, some
> Apache developer generally interested in wiki concept. And it
> is hard to say that such person is willing to be on MW list
> and catches interesting things from 99% talk about MW
> features and bugs.
> Those were my today's thoughts :) And I am sure that there
> are a lot of things related to wiki concept which are simply
> off topic at the most of wiki places.
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