[Foundation-l] [Wikinews-l] Proposal for the creation of a Wikinews foundation

Ray Saintonge saintonge at telus.net
Wed Aug 22 18:32:39 UTC 2007

Thomas Dalton wrote:
> On 22/08/07, Gwern Branwen <gwern0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On  0, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com> scribbled:
>>>> Worst might be exaggerating. Freedom House's _Freedom of the Press 2007_ puts the US in the 22nd rank, which may not be great compared to European countries like Finland or Iceland, but is still ahead of others like Japan, Australia, the UK, France, Austria..
>>> I said "*one of* the worst". In the ranking I linked to, all 5 of your
>>> examples beat the US, some by a long way. Could you provide a link to
>>> your ranking?
>> 'Freedom House's _Freedom of the Press 2007_' is an unambiguous identifier. I did you the favor of assuming you were smart enough to use Google; but you might take a look at <http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=362> and in particular the 'Charts and Graphs' PDF>
> Thank you for the link. I could have found it myself, but why should I
> go to the effort of finding the evidence for your arguments? Also, you
> need to read your own sources better: That survey ranks US as joint
> 16th.
The relative rankings by Freedom House and Reporters without Borders 
merit comparison.


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