[Foundation-l] Proposal for the creation of a Wikinews foundation
brian.mcneil at wikinewsie.org
Tue Aug 21 21:52:31 UTC 2007
To add to Craig's comment on the effectiveness of users having
@wikinewsie.org email addresses... The guys in New Zealand have said the new
addresses return a 100% response rate versus a "hope and a prayer" with
@gmail, I got a 40 minute telephone interview with the UK Labour party's
longest serving MP, Tony Benn, and we have all this for 5 years. There is a
long time for the foundation to work out how it could/should be handling
this before I'd have to put my hand in my pocket again. Perhaps by that time
it will be more generally accepted that Wikinews has unique characteristics?
I don't know how the foundation can serve what the current crop of
wikinewsies want as output, but an acceptance of the unique nature of the
project needs to be more widespread.
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[mailto:foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Craig
Sent: 21 August 2007 23:37
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Subject: [Foundation-l] Proposal for the creation of a Wikinews foundation
I am proposing the creation of a separate organization that would allow
Wikinews to properly handle press accreditation. The Wikimedia
foundation has been unable to do this due to concerns over being seen as
the editor and the legal consequences that go with that. Proper press
accreditation is however very necessary for Wikinews.
A separate organization with a trademark license would be able to
properly handle press accreditation and have very minimal assets at
risk. This organization would not handle anything beyond accreditation
and tools to provide support for accreditation. I am in no way proposing
splitting Wikinews from the foundation or anything like that. We are
overall very happy with the foundation, but we have a need that the
foundation is unable to provide for.
The English language Wikinews has an accreditation policy . This
allows us to receive press credentials at events and also assists us in
getting recognition as media for interviews and the like. The press pass
usually allows free access to an event or, priority access to normally
At the present we have a rather awkward arrangement for accrediting
users. Users who have gone through our accreditation process are
considered community accredited. The lack of any sort of organization
behind creates a problem when the events require a letter from the
organization before issuing the press pass (the G8 being the most
recent), and we have been unable to get the board/foundation to do this
or officially approve the accreditation program. The problem with this
is in order to obtain press badges and other press benefits a user must
either confuse the person (risking the request being denied) with an
explanation of how they are not really representing Wikinews but rather
the Wikinews Community or they must mislead the person into thinking
they really do represent Wikinews.
There are several other resources the foundation has been unable to
provide that are very helpful to us such as official e-mail addresses.
Brian McNeil has the wikinewsie.org domain and has offered e-mail
addresses with it. The response rate with these addresses has greatly
increased. Once again there are legitimate concerns that prevent the
foundation from being able to do this, but a separate foundation would
be able to.
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