[Foundation-l] Future fate of Siberian Wikipedia

Thomas Goldammer thogol at googlemail.com
Thu Aug 2 16:30:53 UTC 2007


Hallo,

2007/8/2, GerardM <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>:
> Hoi,
> From my point of view, the first thing we address would be is "Siberian" a
> linguistic entity. The second one is can it be adopted by bodies like the
> ISO. The arguments that I have seen so far are not persuasive at all. GIven
> also the POV attitude of the Siberian Wikipedia, the question to research
> this further is not really that interesting. When the Siberian Wikipedia
> were to be a normal project, we could ask for recognition but I do not feel
> that this is appropriate in this case.

I don't find anything about a Siberian Russian language (or dialect,
if you like that term) in official materials about languages.

For example, http://www.ethnologue.com/show_family.asp?subid=90707
Ethnologue lists 4 eastern Slavic languages, all of them are well
known and do not include Siberian Russian.

The specific language entry of Russian
(http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=rus) names two
dialects, Northern and Southern Russian. According to first language
speakers I asked this seems to be not a very good subdivision, but all
of them denied that there is a specific Siberian dialect. Maybe some
first language speakers of Russian who read this list can say
something more about that.

My personal observation is that [[ru-sib:User:YaroslavZolotaryov]] is
a kind of king of the project. And if I see things like
http://ru-sib.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:§³§Ý§à§Ó§ß§Ú§Ü I doubt that this
can be called encyclopedic content. There are lessons for learners of
"Siberian", for instance
http://ru-sib.wikipedia.org/wiki/§´§â§Ú§ß§Ñ§è§Ñ§ä§à§Û_§ê§à§Ý§ß§í§ê_¨C_§¹§à_§ã§Ó§Ñ§â§Ú§ä§î.
(translated: 13th chapter - what to learn) I think Zolotaryov wants to
introduce his artifical Russian dialect to other people, which is
clearly Original Research. In my opinion this project should be moved
to Wikia asap.

Saludos cordiales,
Thogo.


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