[Foundation-l] what do we do in the event the Foundation fails? - Re: Policy governance ends

Ray Saintonge saintonge at telus.net
Thu Apr 19 17:38:10 UTC 2007

George Herbert wrote:

>On 4/18/07, Ray Saintonge wrote:
>>Robert Leverington wrote:
>>>We could set up a page on meta to catalog who is keeping copies of
>>>what (seperate it by database) so we can know how safe each database
>>>is and users can volunteer to regularly download a copy of the one
>>>they choose. If say five or ten people (from different countries) had
>>>a copy of each (preferably long term users) we would probably be safe
>>>even as a result of a continent wide genocide.
>>Not just long-term users; they would need some tech savvy as well.  I
>>would qualify as a long term user, but wouldn't have a clue about how to
>>deal with the stuff if unfortunate circumstances did arise.
>If Wikipedia has to be rebuilt from such distributed backups, we
>goofed - There should be warm-standby content copies in geographical
>distributed regions and a real offsite backups (tape, or lugged disk)
>rotation mechanism in place.
I agree, but it's always a good idea to have fail-safe plans on multiple 

>There's nothing wrong with giving key project members (or anyone else
>who wants it) the whole dataset to take home, but as noted above, most
>people would have a hard time re-launching the site given a hard disk
>and a request to do so.
>If we truly do have a civilization-ending event, restoring Wikipedia
>to full live production status is probably not the number one
If it's really civilization ending there won't be anybody around to use 
it anyway.  The only solution at that point may be to have a version 
launched on a vessel into deep space.  :-)   What will those aliens 
think of us when they read the Pokémon articles?

>A more credible scenario is that power goes out in St Petersburg for
>long enough to be a problem, and the datacenter can't get enough
>diesel to keep going forever (or the upstream net connectivity fails).
> This is the type of scenario for which major organizations keep a
>geographically diverse systems set going.
And things still go wrong!  ... Like yesterday's Blackberry blackout.


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