[Foundation-l] what do we do in the event the Foundation fails? - Re: Policy governance ends

[Robert Leverington]

Does anyone have an idea of how many GB the complete dump of Wikimedia
wikis is when saved as a bittorrent?

On 19/04/07, George Herbert <george.herbert at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/18/07, Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net> wrote:
> > Robert Leverington wrote:
> >
> > >On 18/04/07, Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>David Gerard wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>At the moment I'm quite worried about Commons. The image dump is HUGE
> > >>>and I don't think there's been a good dump of it for a while. And
> > >>>300-400GB of images is quite a lot for people to keep around casually.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>Can it be segmented where no one person needs to protect the whole
> > >>thing.  Each person archiving would only need to keep downloading the
> > >>same predetermined part of the database.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >We could set up a page on meta to catalog who is keeping copies of
> > >what (seperate it by database) so we can know how safe each database
> > >is and users can volunteer to regularly download a copy of the one
> > >they choose. If say five or ten people (from different countries) had
> > >a copy of each (preferably long term users) we would probably be safe
> > >even as a result of a continent wide genocide.
> > >
> > Not just long-term users; they would need some tech savvy as well.  I
> > would qualify as a long term user, but wouldn't have a clue about how to
> > deal with the stuff if unfortunate circumstances did arise.
>
>
> If Wikipedia has to be rebuilt from such distributed backups, we
> goofed - There should be warm-standby content copies in geographical
> distributed regions and a real offsite backups (tape, or lugged disk)
> rotation mechanism in place.
>
> There's nothing wrong with giving key project members (or anyone else
> who wants it) the whole dataset to take home, but as noted above, most
> people would have a hard time re-launching the site given a hard disk
> and a request to do so.
>
> If we truly do have a civilization-ending event, restoring Wikipedia
> to full live production status is probably not the number one
> priority.
>
> A more credible scenario is that power goes out in St Petersburg for
> long enough to be a problem, and the datacenter can't get enough
> diesel to keep going forever (or the upstream net connectivity fails).
>  This is the type of scenario for which major organizations keep a
> geographically diverse systems set going.
>
>
> --
> -george william herbert
> george.herbert at gmail.com
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