[Foundation-l] models for adminship/wiki leadership

Birgitte SB birgitte_sb at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 11 14:32:12 UTC 2007

I think a "Community Leader" program would end up in
nearly the same situation as admins are on the larger
wikis.  The real issue is that the community is grown
so large there really cannot be overall leaders in the
same way there are in the smaller wikis.  

One thing I think may work is to break-out workgroups
for different processes.  If there were a deletion
workgroup or a copyright workgroup for example.  These
should be experienced groups of people (usually
admins) that would handle the more difficult cases and
review processes while still encouraging the average
admin to tackle the uncontested cases.  Workgroups
should be filled without buearcracy of elections.  The
apprentice system being used by Wiktionary admin
canidates may be a good model to use to add people to
such workgroups.

Birgitte SB

--- Jean-Denis Vauguet <jd at typhon.org> wrote:

> Brianna Laugher wrote:
> > There would probably be very high overlap between
> admins and Community
> > Leaders, especially at the start.As the process
> became stronger, it
> > would be much clearer for new users who want to
> contribute, which
> > process (RfCL/RfA) is appropriate for what they
> want to achieve. For
> > status in the community, one should aim to be a
> Community Leader.
> > And then maybe adminship would really become "no
> big deal". Instead of
> > dealing with so many disputes, admins would be
> more about enacting the
> > decisions made by Community Leaders - a better
> reflection of the
> > division between the community role and the
> technical/maintenance role
> > that are currently both conflated within
> "adminship".
> The idea of having a list of trusted, well-skilled
> people is
> interesting.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User,
> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:SPA ... are not so
> different from a
> Community-Leader list _regarding one of its goal_
> (ie. old-timers
> helping newbies). But this is not a
> community-endorsement nor it is a
> list of people who can Rule on.
> The problem with separating adminship from
> leadership is that many admin
> tasks require to rule on. Consensus is not always
> reached and admins are
> expected to, well, rule on, then proceed (delete,
> protect, whatever).
> Those two actions could be separated (a
> "Community-Leader" rules on,
> then an admin puts the decision in effects), but I
> assess it would
> impede the process.
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